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AGP help please

120 replies

OpheliaTodd · 16/08/2019 09:56

If a guy has full surgery on his genitals in his quest to “become a woman” does that mean he can’t be an AGP? Because surely - sorry to be crude - in order to get the thrill and pleasure from the sight/idea of himself as a woman, he needs a dick to wank with?

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Justhadathought · 16/08/2019 13:53

*Anywhere, whether it's rare or not the fact is that if interest levels were reversed you lot would still be saying m2fs are fetishists and ftms are lesbians... because it suits your propaganda

If something is true, and borne out by facts and statistics, then it is not propaganda.

You seem to be approaching this back to front........

Joisanofthedales · 16/08/2019 13:51

That should have been tea spluttery. Hate autocorrect!

Justhadathought · 16/08/2019 13:51

I'm sure plenty of you have your own personal 'penis beaker', probably filled with bleach

Is that straight from your imagination......? Interesting!

Joisanofthedales · 16/08/2019 13:51

Girlunder that really cracked me up. So tea splitter 😃

littlbrowndog · 16/08/2019 13:39

I know a few vagina fetishishts.

One of them lives with me dumonde. 😂😂

GirlDownUnder · 16/08/2019 13:26

Minnie if you keep your penis in a cup of bleach, you're doing it wrong.

StroppyWoman · 16/08/2019 13:18

You lot slay me. You're ace

DuMondeB · 16/08/2019 13:17

littl - I told my husband about lesbians being reclassified as ‘vagina fetishists’ and he said he would proudly wear it on a t shirt.

Might get him one made for Xmas.

littlbrowndog · 16/08/2019 13:15

Is that a clean penis fetishist then

DuMondeB · 16/08/2019 13:08

I do prefer a clean penis to unwashed one, although I wouldn’t recommend bleach...

Mumsnet prefer Zoflora.

AnotherLass · 16/08/2019 13:06

It really is worth noting that Blanchard always made it very clear that it wasn't only a sexual thing - it ended up going beyond that into a kind of love attachment. This paragraph is worth reading:

“Gender dysphoria, in young nonhomosexual males, usually appears along with, or subsequent to, autogynephilia; in later years, however, autogynephilic sexual arousal may diminish or disappear, while the transsexual wish remains or grows even stronger…One may speculate that the above developmental sequence reflects the operation, in autogynephilic men, of certain normal heterosexual behaviors. Many men, after years of marriage, are less excited by their wives than they were initially but continue to be deeply attached to them…It is therefore feasible that the continuing desire to have a female body, after the disappearance of sexual response to that thought, has some analog in the permanent love-bond that may remain between two people after their initial strong sexual attraction has largely disappeared.”

littlbrowndog · 16/08/2019 13:04

Wow. Our whole campaign 😂😂😂 SMH

TeaEnjoyingRadiantFeminist · 16/08/2019 13:00

Minnie what in the love of vanilla fuck are you on about?

There being some clubs in London doesn't mean that fetishism is common in women.

if interest levels were reversed you lot would still be saying m2fs are fetishists and ftms are lesbians... because it suits your propaganda.

See above to my first comment.

LangCleg · 16/08/2019 12:52

mine does have teeth

Don't eat Minnie by accident!

AnyOldPrion · 16/08/2019 12:50

Behavioral autogynephilia: arousal to the act or fantasy of doing something regarded as feminine

Urgh! So public knitting might be less passive aggressive and more public arousal?

Bleugh!

Confused
SophoclesTheFox · 16/08/2019 12:50

mine does have teeth 🌮 😬

SophoclesTheFox · 16/08/2019 12:49

Oh minnie, what are you smoking 😂 your posts are so...so...rofl-y.

Prude shaming women. genius. that’ll get more and more onside won’t it?

LangCleg · 16/08/2019 12:49

Coughing with laughter!

Well, honestly. Penis beakers filled with fucking bleach. What else is one to do other than take the piss? Minnie will be on to vagina dentata fever dreams next.

WhenIsTheEasyBit · 16/08/2019 12:44

Minnie I've not engaged with you before, but seriously what are you doing here? There is no campaign here; there are discussions, questions, occasionally arguments. Some MNers do campaign elsewhere and use the boards to signpost events etc.

These boards allow people to learn and share ideas. Some of that sharing has been around concerns that being a lesbian has become increasingly difficult and the trans ideology is effectively a kind of conversion therapy. However, there has also been lots of discussion about the theft of places on single-sex programmes and recognition lists, mis-quoting of equality legislation, the risks of abuse of self-id by sexual predators, and of the lasting impact of medication to delay puberty. And quite a lot more.

So if you are going to pop up and grace us with your presence, please try to be better informed.

SheWhoMustBeSilent · 16/08/2019 12:41

Is that a variety of the incredibly common female fetish, Bobbitism?

Coughing with laughter!

LangCleg · 16/08/2019 12:37

I'm sure plenty of you have your own personal 'penis beaker', probably filled with bleach.

Is that a variety of the incredibly common female fetish, Bobbitism?

This so painfully obvious, Minnie. You could at least try to be subtle.

LangCleg · 16/08/2019 12:35

I'd imagine that's true... if you were doing a survey based on the average member of these boards

Yes because we're all uptight, puritanical, missonary-only haggard old bags, right? Deary me. Try harder.

Paraphilias are an overwhelmingly male phenomenon and closely comorbid with sex offending.

Multiple Paraphilic Diagnoses among Sex Offenders

fairplayforwomen.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/153.full_.pdf

MinnieTheSphinx · 16/08/2019 12:34

If you are going to get finger pointy, you should at least be accurate in your accusations.

Perfectly accurate. Your whole campaign has been built around saving lesbians from being supposedly duped into transition.

DuMondeB · 16/08/2019 12:31

Actually, we talk about straight ROGD girls identifying as gay men fairly frequently.

If you are going to get finger pointy, you should at least be accurate in your accusations.

MinnieTheSphinx · 16/08/2019 12:28

It might be rarer among women but there are still plenty of female fetish sites online. There are certainly. fetish clubs and groups for women in London.

Anywhere, whether it's rare or not the fact is that if interest levels were reversed you lot would still be saying m2fs are fetishists and ftms are lesbians... because it suits your propaganda.