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Two trans journalists quit The Guardian, citing transphobia

163 replies

Popchyk · 15/08/2019 13:34

www.buzzfeed.com/patrickstrudwick/two-transgender-employees-quit-guardian-transphobia

Lawsuits against The Guardian to follow, no doubt.

The article is quite funny in its po-faced declarations of transphobia (and no evidence whatsoever to back them up).

That's what happens when you indulge, indulge, indulge.

They turn on you. They always turn on you.

Look at A Challenor and the Green Party, after everything the Greens did for the Challenors. Challenor quit, citing transphobia.

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Wurzelsnewhead · 15/08/2019 14:09

That’s pretty dark reading, this person ended up ‘ scared of using the women’s toilets’ and went back to rushing in and out.
Hold on, isn’t that what most people do at work- rush to the loo or is the done thing these days to take a long, leisurely dump? Is this ex Guardian journalist suggesting male journalists at the Guardian are such a danger to mtf people they can’t use the men’s bogs when the women’s become unsafe? Even Owen Jones ?😲😲

53rdWay · 15/08/2019 14:09

Noticing that trans rights sometimes "collide" with women's rights equals denying my humanity

Honestly I hope that people who say this don't actually believe it. Imagine going through life feeling that your humanity depends on getting everyone around you to agree with you. It would be a miserably stressful existence. I think Owen Jones is a total arse whose sexism is so deeply embedded that he can't even see it, but I don't think the Guardian is denying my humanity by paying him.

Didactylos · 15/08/2019 14:07

narcissism and drama as both an identity and a political movement
Yawn

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 15/08/2019 14:05

Jesus, if the Guardian is too transphobic for them then they aren't going to find the rest of the world a happy place.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 15/08/2019 14:04

Eugh the horrible t*rf scum at the Guardian published this just yesterday
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/15/trans-people-just-want-to-live-a-fulfilling-life-our-mere-existence-shouldnt-threaten-you

Clear transphobia

SophoclesTheFox · 15/08/2019 14:01

^^ I’m not shitting on millennials by the way, this came from some internal recruitment comms at my work about why millennials don’t want to work for us, because they think big corporates in financial services are horrid and don’t reflect their values.

AlwaysTawnyOwl · 15/08/2019 14:00

These are some of the most self obsessed people on the planet

SophoclesTheFox · 15/08/2019 13:59

Victoria’s resignation email, sent at the end of last month to everyone in her department,

I’m not sure you’ve improved your chances of finding a new job with that childishness, Victoria.

The Guardian more than any other paper has skewed towards an uncritical positive spin on trans stories, and a disinclination to fully probe alternative views, so if even that isn’t enough...

I know this is a millennial thing, but your employer really doesn’t have to share all of your values and beliefs to make them a good employer. on a broader point, we are setting a lot of young people up for unhappiness by pushing this narrative that you can only thrive in workplaces that wholly reflect you as a person, that accord with how you see the world, and where only people who agree with your worldview work.

aliasundercover · 15/08/2019 13:59

I’m now awaiting news that OJ has resigned in solidarity.

KatvonHostileExtremist · 15/08/2019 13:57

I imagine the Guardian is the least transphobic place on the planet.

TowelNumber42 · 15/08/2019 13:56

That article is an inadvertent peaking machine I reckon.

For Victoria, the turning point came in October 2018 when the Guardian published what became a notorious editorial – a leader article setting out its official position on trans rights – which, it said, “collide” with women’s rights and put women at risk. This was despite LGBT organisations and many prominent feminists and women’s groups asserting the opposite.

But Victoria’s immediate concern was that she had to go to work the next day, knowing what her employer’s publicly-stated position was on her. “It suddenly became real,” she said, before characterising her thought process that morning: “I’m entering this building with people who are denying my humanity.”

Noticing that trans rights sometimes "collide" with women's rights equals denying my humanity Utterly ridiculous and I bet most people reading will go "Eh? That doesn't follow."

KatvonHostileExtremist · 15/08/2019 13:55

The article quotes a report The Guardian wrote, about lobby groups pushing for medical interventions on children, that are unproven in terms of safety.

Clinicians working at Tavistock told us this.

A professor of evidence based medicine at Oxford university, told us this.

But HBomberGuy tells us that's tRAnsPhObic

Right. Whatever. There's still no bloody evidence.

Obviously twitter wants a t*rf hunt at the guardian. Such creepy dudes.

Two trans journalists quit The Guardian, citing transphobia
littlecabbage · 15/08/2019 13:47

What a load of waffle. No concrete examples of transphobia. And comparing their "oppression" to that of refugees, is pretty distasteful.