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‘Gay Cake’ case now going back to court

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FeminismandWomensFights · 15/08/2019 08:44

This case is an important one to watch for those interested legal protections for personal freedom of belief. It is now going back to court.
Gist seems to be that the complainant tried to order a cake with a message on it saying ‘support gay marriage’ from a baker who doesn’t support gay marriage. Bakery says no to that specific order.
Complainant feels it’s about discrimination because he couldn’t make that supplier supply him with that specific message on a cake. Baker says that any different message on a cake would’ve been completely fine to provide to him, it’s not personal discrimination, it’s about people having a right not to endorse political statements that they don’t believe in. (Possibly making arguments about religious freedom of expression too, but I haven’t read into the details). It‘s easy to see how this case could relate to GC people’s rights, at work and so on.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-49350891

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Birdsfoottrefoil · 15/08/2019 09:11

slippery the bakers won

AnotherLass · 15/08/2019 09:10

Shit, I thought this one was settled. I've heard legal people say that it is quite important for Maya.

I'm somewhat confused about how Brexit influences this. Are we still going to be bound by the ECHR? Sorry for my ignorance.

SmiteTheeWithThunderbolts · 15/08/2019 09:05

"This is about limited companies being somehow able to pick and choose which customers they will serve."

But that's not what happened - they chose not to provide him with a specific product, not refused to sell him anything because of his views.

And whenever I see that image I can't help wondering if reproducing it would be an infringement of copyright in the Sesame Street characters.

feelingverylazytoday · 15/08/2019 08:59

slippery I think that was the guest house case. They refused service altogether.
The bakery didn't refuse to bake the cake, just to pipe the message on it. They offered to supply the coloured icing so that the customers could pipe it on themselves.

slipperywhensparticus · 15/08/2019 08:54

Ffs this again? I thought the bakers lost because there religion provided no protection and they should run it as a business not take it personally?

Or was that the guest house case?

FeminismandWomensFights · 15/08/2019 08:54

Birdsfoot, interesting question.
Link again: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-49350891

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Birdsfoottrefoil · 15/08/2019 08:50

I am looking forward to the day EHRC decides to pursue a case on behalf of women, religion, maternity or race...

I presume when ‘clarifying these points of law’ only one side gets government funding to bring their case?

FeminismandWomensFights · 15/08/2019 08:48

Also Is the verdict of the cake case going to be relevant to Maya F’s case, I wonder?

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