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Stonewall have updated their definition of transgender.

117 replies

TurboTeddy · 14/08/2019 16:40

mobile.twitter.com/LabelFreeBrands/status/1161234934448574464/photo/1

Not sure I can add anything, the rediculousness speaks for itself. I think leaving us speechless is the new silencing tactic.

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TurboTeddy · 14/08/2019 17:12

I searched for the original document too but couldn't locate it on the website, although there are a lot of resources, some of which you have to pay for. I assumed it was legit given Simon Fanshaw commented.

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HerFemaleness · 14/08/2019 17:08

www.stonewall.org.uk/sites/default/files/transgender_booklet_2004.pdf

It's not a new updated definition. I wish people would fact check before they post things. It's from a 2004 booklet,.

SpannerInTheWorks · 14/08/2019 17:06

Oops cross posted

SpannerInTheWorks · 14/08/2019 17:06

LInk here www.stonewall.org.uk/sites/default/files/transgender_booklet_2004.pdf

OrchidInTheSun · 14/08/2019 17:03

It's from here NonnyMouse: https://www.stonewall.org.uk/sites/default/files/transgenderbooklett_2004.pdf

But it's old I think, judging by the date. Still shit, mind.

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 14/08/2019 17:02

So that's 99% of people on the planet who come under the trans definition now.

Meaning that's trans ain't that special.

Own goal. Stonewall.

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/08/2019 17:01

They can fuck off.

What about children with asd who frequently don't conform to gender stereotypes and either don't have the social awareness to be worried they don't "fit in" or simply don't care what other kids think?

JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown · 14/08/2019 16:59

At least they're being open about it. It's all about believing that gender stereotypes are actually real and innate.
Sexist af.

EverylittleAlps · 14/08/2019 16:59

"That includes people who do not self-identify as trans, but are perceived as such by others"

This has to be a wind-up, surely. You can't self-id someone else?

PinkFlowerFairy · 14/08/2019 16:59

Wow. That's a whole ton of GC people then! I hate gender norms, not sure theyd welcome me under the trans umbrella.

If only they could stick to sex being sex, we cpuld all reject gender norms together.

LukewarmCustard · 14/08/2019 16:55

I got called 'Sir' at the Tesco check out yesterday. Under the new Stonewall definition, this makes me trans. I don't identify as trans, but I do fall outside of stereotypical gender norms, am perceived as such by others and have experienced misgendering.

NonnyMouse1337 · 14/08/2019 16:52

I've tried to find the info directly on the Stonewall website, but I can't. Not sure where the screenshot is from. Hmm

GCAcademic · 14/08/2019 16:52

Is this real? It seems too ridiculous to be true.

LikeothersIamjustme · 14/08/2019 16:51

Now I am aware I am trans I am confused what I should do after work. I was either going to tidy the garage or do some crocheting. Which would be better for my mental health?

SpannerInTheWorks · 14/08/2019 16:50

Well who know? I can read maps therefore I am trans

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MIdgebabe · 14/08/2019 16:48

Think they misrepresent the equality act and imply that you can use any female facilities if you are Trans , whilst stating that’s trans is who you are not a legal declaration.

It says “ your gender is protected under the equality act”

They also say that none binary people might not like he /she so you should ask “How they would prefer to be addressed “

I would hate it if someone’s called me she to my face. He /she isn’t about addressing someone. It’s about identifying who you are talking about.

LikeothersIamjustme · 14/08/2019 16:46

I love this response

"So should I cut off my penis and give it to my wife? I do all the cleaning, cooking and can put makeup on better than her. Isn't this insulting to both men and women who have fought to break down gender stereotypes."