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Stonewall have updated their definition of transgender.

117 replies

TurboTeddy · 14/08/2019 16:40

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Not sure I can add anything, the rediculousness speaks for itself. I think leaving us speechless is the new silencing tactic.

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Wurzelsnewhead · 14/08/2019 20:22

You’re not more trans than me, I decided not to grow a willy at all. Thankfully I also had a transclusive midwife who recognised I wasn’t in fact male as my mum had expected and assigned me female.
Confession: I do drive with just one hand on the steering wheel sometimes and beep my horn at other drivers (I know, too far). So all that forward planning and I’m still male 😳.

lionheart · 14/08/2019 20:16

Anyone except 'Surrendered Wives' and perhaps Barbie and Ken.

placemats · 14/08/2019 20:11

Anyone who chooses for whatever reason to self identify as transgender.

I call this out for the obvious transphobia that it is.

It totally ignores those that suffer from gender dysphoria (and very few people do and they are most male).

And the rest of it is homophobic.

Stonewash.

TheBigBallOfOil · 14/08/2019 20:10

But if we permit Cheshire what else must we allow? Stoke? Stafford? Fucking Wolverhampton?
This madness must cease

Caaarrrl · 14/08/2019 20:10

I think it should make no difference at all where you're from. If you feel Northern then you are. TNAN. No debate

User10fuckingmillion · 14/08/2019 20:04

I think I am a NRA- I have been defending the rights of Cheshire folk to identify as northern for most of my life.

TheBigBallOfOil · 14/08/2019 19:57

I am actually from Liverpool. Where does that put me in the northern/transnorthern debate?
My DH as a Yorkshireman claims scousers are just northern cockneys but then he is a filthy bigot whose words are literal violence and he should probably die in a fire.

morningtoncrescent62 · 14/08/2019 19:53

I feel Northern. My feelz are persistent, consistent and the other one which I can't remember (senior moment). Transnortherners are northerners THERE IS NO DEBATE.

I can tell the booklet's old because it starts by pointing out the difference between sex and gender and saying it's important. I gather that's all very yesterday - my woke colleagues keep telling me that sex and gender have now collapsed into each other, hence female penises and all that rubbish.

Caaarrrl · 14/08/2019 19:47

Just out of interest neurotrash , where do you consider to be ok to come from to call oneself Northern?

Deliriumoftheendless · 14/08/2019 19:42

That’s t’NRA to you!

NeurotrashWarrior · 14/08/2019 19:40

Wow I see the NRA are out in force tonight!

(Or am I an NRA?Confused)

Michelleoftheresistance · 14/08/2019 19:35

Argh Hamster they'll be round to confiscate your badge any moment now.... I probably lost mine this morning when I bled a radiator. Instead of pretending I don't know how and fluttering at a neighbour to do it for me. Sigh. It used to be doing this stuff was just being basically independent, not a declaration of a desire to be a bloke.

If I bake a batch of scones quick do you think I'll get away with counting as NB or am I now full on Rambo on the jelly baby scale?

Caaarrrl · 14/08/2019 19:29

Neurotrash

How dare you question where I live so that you can decide if I can identify as Northern?

If I feel Northern and I identify as such you are literally committing violence towards me to suggest that where I live might have any bearing on my Northernness

Hamster00 · 14/08/2019 19:26

@TurboTeddy

I'm clearly CrapTrans (tm) then. This week I've laid carpet tiles, hung a new door and sat on the floor in jogging bottoms and a paint splattered t-shirt eating curry. It's only Wednesday.

No heels or scones in sight -sigh- #LaydeeFail

Deliriumoftheendless · 14/08/2019 19:25

Wow! There’s some SHOCKING Northernphobia on this thread! I need a lie down. No I will NOT discuss this with you!

Smile
Sexnotgender · 14/08/2019 19:20

That’s fucking appalling!

So effeminate men and butch women are transgender? Says fucking who?

Argh, it makes me so angry. How dare they!

Datun · 14/08/2019 19:20

I'm more trans than the lot of you. I even had my willy cut off to prove it. So there.

Oh willies. Snort. I don't have a willie, and you don't see me banging on about being trans, do you?!

TurboTeddy · 14/08/2019 19:15

Hamster00

Oh hamster, dysphoria is so last century, it's all about the stereotypes. If you haven't complained about your heels killing you and baked at least one batch of scones this week you're clearly not trying hard enough. Smile

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NeurotrashWarrior · 14/08/2019 19:11

Define "northern"...

It's always amused me that people from Leeds think they're northern...

Caaarrrl · 14/08/2019 19:05

I'm also Northern. Does that make me more or less trans?

Caaarrrl · 14/08/2019 19:03

Oh I've just realised that I'm special! I'm trans, not just a middle aged, over weight, white woman. I wear trousers, can do stuff like replace brake pads on cars, build fences and I do all the decorating. I also hate all housework and shopping etc.

Therefore I am a trans man.

AlphaNumericalSequence · 14/08/2019 18:55

According to their definition, "transgender" includes "effeminate men". Have they misgendered these particular people? Or are they acknowledging that being transgender doesn't change your biological sex?

Deliriumoftheendless · 14/08/2019 18:50

I’d offer to hold your coat in support BigBallOfOil but as we are Northern we don’t wear the blummin’ things.

Hamster00 · 14/08/2019 18:46

-picks up ball and storms off-

I'm more trans than the lot of you. I even had my willy cut off to prove it. So there.

-flounces out-

/s

SarahTancredi · 14/08/2019 18:43

Everyone is trans then Hmm