Rachel McKinnon in the UK in October to lecture us on TW in sport!

little me me me talk

No, no, enough about me. Let’s talk about me

I seem to have found something which suggests that McKinnon was NOT the first transgender World champion, it was another Canadian, Michelle Dumaresq, the mountain bike downhiller who won the 35-39 category in 2006, beating Team GB Petra Witshire into 2nd place.
From post 98 onwards.
Did this all start in Canada?

ridemonkey.bikemag.com/threads/2006-uci-masters-worlds-mega-thread.135719/page-3

Don’t worry, no GC women are going to protest your little me me me talk. We don’t do that, because we’re not MRAs/TRAs. We actually believe in the right to free speech, even if that speech is full of excuses, gaslighting and lies.

I guess a subtle implication that women should be in the kitchen keeping busy cooking chips too, even though Rachel claims to be a woman. Not that sort of woman though.

THAT is what McKinnon suggested was appropriate for any woman who questioned their beliefs. Let's not be coy. McKinnon wished an overly brutal and sadistic death on women for speaking up.

Thanks for the explanation. I hadn't really heard the term before, as I don't think it's that common? But I sort of assumed it was something to do with burning oil.

It's a disgusting action to wish on anyone.

Datun "The more people who get to see McKinnon in action, the better. Their name is irrevocably linked to telling women to die in a grease fire. (As an aside, I imagine a grease fire is meant to be even worse than a common or garden conflagration?)."

Far, far worse. Remember that horrific episode in the first season of Spooks where Helen is killed by being drowned in a boiling oil deep fat fryer? It was/is one of the most complained about scenes, and it doesn't even seem to be available on youtube either. It was truly horrible and that was a tv drama where we didn't even see it really It makes multiple "worst ever" lists.

People can - if they wish - also search for images of chip pan burns victims, to see the physical horror of it.

THAT is what McKinnon suggested was appropriate for any woman who questioned their beliefs. Let's not be coy. McKinnon wished an overly brutal and sadistic death on women for speaking up.

@chockaholic72

That may be how you view Masters events in your sport but that's not the case in other sports, there are plenty of Olympic swimmers who participate in masters events. It isn't viewed with quite the same seriousness but it isn't viewed with as much distain as you express here

This is a feminist forum, not really the place to be agist!

The more people who get to see McKinnon in action, the better. Their name is irrevocably linked to telling women to die in a grease fire. (As an aside, I imagine a grease fire is meant to be even worse than a common or garden conflagration?).

And McKinnon's premise seems to be twofold. After waffling, intentionally unintelligibly according to their thesis, I believe they claimed that men have no physical advantage over women?

And secondly, even if they do transwomen still deserve to beat women. Because sacred caste reasons.

The more people hear about it, the better.

Blimey Buzz Are you hiding under a rock or something? Rachel uses several different terfblockers and has blocked half the world.

McKinnon blocked me on Twitter, again must have been for liking something. I can imagine them, angry red faced, sitting there going through individual likes, just to block.

You must be special. I wonder why I am not blocked by them then. Odd. I see everything posted by them.

McK seems to think we'll be upset That the How to Academy is paying expenses & an honorarium. Why would we be? So long as it's not public money being wasted it's fine in my book. How to Academy can waste their money however they choose IMO.

Woke women posting this crap on her twitter page does not help at all.

“A woman is a gender identity. If someone identifies as a woman, she is a woman.”

I would prefer to hear McKinnon speak than have a colonoscopy.

McKinnon blocked me on Twitter, again must have been for liking something. I can imagine them, angry red faced, sitting there going through individual likes, just to block. It's almost like they've got no life.

McKinnon is like golfin stepho, haddock, and yaniv. They enjoy the attention, no matter how negative. McKinnon would LOVE us to protest, lol, like the cheating nobody is worth spending time on.

I wonder if, deep down, there's a single shred of dignity or self respect in that person?

"Can anyone think of a less appealing offer you've seen lately than paying 25 quid to hear Rachel McKinnon speak?"

Maybe a colonoscopy.

Brilliant Michelle I think you may be onto something there. Maybe send a synopsis to the BBC, lord knows it'd be lovely to see one of us making some money from this bollocks for once.

Anyway this could be the start of a whole new exciting lecture series where science is presented with extreme personal bias and agenda. Such as:

'Examining the science and dispelling the myths: why sugar is good for your teeth and definitely doesn't make you fat, and how chocolate could be more important in your diet than vegetables', delivered by Cadbury.

'Wrongthink: the scientific facts on how investigating burglary and muggings are a poor use of police time and resources, and how limericks really are the biggest threat to national security' delivered by PC Gul.

Well girldownunder I'm well aware of my tendency to ramble on, and on...
I thought for once in my life I'd try and be brief .

"It could be about female-to-male trans people (for example, in PE lessons) who should be allowed to compete against women,"

Not really, because women transitioning to men - Mack Beggs, Verity Smith - take testosterone which is a performance enhancing drug, which means they will bulk up and increase muscle mass.

edition.cnn.com/2018/08/02/sport/transgender-rugby-player-verity-smith/index.html

www.theguardian.com/society/2018/feb/25/transgender-wrestler-mack-beggs-wins-texas-girls-title.

You could, DrL but you'd look like a bit of a dick.

Dress up as Emily Davidson, shirly?

"Spokes For Women"

...throw myself in front of THEIR bike?

Umm depends, they don’t look light? You might get squished

Should I dress up as a giant penis and throw myself in front of THEIR bike? #askingforafriend

Should trans athletes participate in women’s sport?

This, on the face of it, is unclear. It could be about female-to-male trans people (for example, in PE lessons) who should be allowed to compete against women, to avoid the humiliation of lagging far behind, or the danger of being seriously injured by, male competitors.

'Rachel McKinnon sifts science and ethics...' and ignores them entirely.

It'll be a bastion of the Woke and For It who'll applaud every word without the faintest critical thought or referral to actual fact. Echo chamber in fact. But it'll provide very helpful evidence of batshittery and how unquestioned and how unbalanced and anti woman the 'for' side of the debate is. Particularly when there's no escaping that this is in fact a male lecturing on what sport women should be allowed, what fairness is for women, what a woman is and who should be allowed to be one. People are going to see straight through that.

So crack on Rache. Go for it. Sunlight, that's all that's necessary.