Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

If you ever wanted proof that TRA is the same MRA check this out.

183 replies

TRAMRA · 12/08/2019 19:28

A man. A man who looks like a man, and identifies as a man,
isn't allowed in a women's changing room. How terribly transphobic and sexist. Read the comments and the way he ignores women's concerns, as even if 1 out of a 1000 men, (he kind of forgets who he is meant to be championing here) was bad you shouldn't be able to tar all of male kind with the same brush. one out of a thousand eh? Hmm.

It's all so thinly disguised isn't it?

Well done to the Primark staff who decided that a man demanding he be allowed in a changing room with a young girl, is the last man who should be allowed in.

medium.com/@RJameson/a-recent-experience-has-opened-my-eyes-to-transphobic-bigotry-f5005a4e6497

OP posts:
Juells · 15/08/2019 10:20

I feel so sorry for his daughter.

Why so? Don't all teenage girls dream of having their fathers force their way into communal dressing rooms to help them do up buttons and zips?

Solonelywastheballard · 15/08/2019 10:15

The more of the articles I read the more of a complete universal prick i think he is. I feel so sorry for his daughter.

SD1978 · 15/08/2019 09:57

So it's ok for him to enter a female change room (in his opinion) why didn't he use the male ones? Why is it not ok for his daughter to be I. A curtained male change room- but it should be ok for him to be in a similar female area? Hypocritical, and the usual misogynistic it's all about me shit.

GlitchStitch · 15/08/2019 09:50

Come on now, where is the fun in being alone in a family changing room with an imaginary daughter? Cut the guy some slack, he's only asking to be around other people's real kids. Is that too much to hope for?

Juells · 15/08/2019 09:50

LittleFairywren
if women need a special event because of the genetic disadvantages that handicap them, perhaps that should be in the Paralympics

That isn't fair on the Paralympics, if women were forced into that then it would be mobbed by TRAs insisting on their right to join in as well.

Datun · 15/08/2019 09:45

Also Robert, why do you dismiss those comments suggesting a third, family changing room?

Don't meet the entry requirements?

Juells · 15/08/2019 09:43

But he's also a lovely man, very kind.

You can tell that. He wants equality for all. He's quite Christian, the way he can separate out the sin from the sinner, and direct love towards the sinner. Jesus-like, really.

I felt so sorry for that poor old grandpa in the comments, who broke down in tears a few days after the traumatic experience of being denied entry to the dressing room with the little girl dancers. Only beginning the journey to womanhood, only wanted to help, and had to deal with such rejection.

LittleFairywren · 15/08/2019 09:41

Robert has predictably misogynistic views on sport too: "if women need a special event because of the genetic disadvantages that handicap them, perhaps that should be in the Paralympics

Actual jaw drop at this one.

RoyalCorgi · 15/08/2019 09:33

I don't believe it can really be Robert Jameson commenting here. Why?

  1. We know Robert Jameson is Highly Intelligent and Very Good at Rational Argument. He's said so lots of times.
  1. The Robert Jameson commenting here has simply argued his case by using the words "bigot" and "bigoted" over and over again.
  1. Name-calling does not constitute rational argument.
  1. Therefore that cannot be Robert Jameson.

Prove me wrong...

ScrimshawTheSecond · 15/08/2019 09:25

Self-published, glitchstitch. He has selfpublished many, articles along the lines of 'how hard it is to be a genius' and various 'thought experiments' pleading the rights of perverts and paedophiles. But he's also a lovely man, very kind.

Juells · 15/08/2019 09:19

I can see why he's an advocate of a basic income. He's entitled to be supported by the ignorant masses while he's sitting around pontificating. Grin

GlitchStitch · 15/08/2019 09:12

I mean at least purchase a thesaurus. It's very repetitive.

GlitchStitch · 15/08/2019 09:11

Seriously, is this guy a published writer? He's really shit. The women on FWR throwing together a quick post on their lunch break, or whilst caring for their kids or on the train to work communicate far better than the drivel he saw fit to publish. I guess it's the confidence of a mediocre male again.

nettie434 · 15/08/2019 09:09

MRAs generally don't have kids - or relationships with women for that matter.

Sadly, I disagree. I think MRAs often have failed relationships and cause a lot of damage to their partners and children. Incels (somebody up thread mentioned them) are fewer in number. While many incels do share the same views as MRAs (and white supremacists), I see them as a sub group within the larger MRA movement.

Juells · 15/08/2019 09:06

As for this... Some of the clothes she wanted to try on were fastened at the back and she would probably need my assistance in the fitting room to fasten the clothes and get them adjusted properly. ...it sounds so fucking paper-thin.

Juells · 15/08/2019 09:03

Datun

Says the man driven to write an outraged article on not being allowed into changing rooms with teen girls.

He must have given off such a creepy vibe for the Primark staff to dig their heels in the way they did. Presenting himself as some kind of righteous campaigner, only wanting to accompany his child into the changing room. You have to wonder if it was wise of him to draw so much attention to himself by writing the article, and defending the rights of predators and perverts.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 15/08/2019 09:03

Very well put, Datun. He really is an unpleasant little weasel.

Datun · 15/08/2019 08:58

Robert, word of advice.

If you want to have an intellectual wank and salivate over the offence you're causing, you go right ahead. But don't be surprised to be viewed as anything other than a dangerous, sexist tosser.

Dressing up misogyny as 'thought experiments' to alleviate male bitterness is depressingly common.

You're not special, your minimising thoughts about predation and perversion are ten a penny.

You're talking to women here. I guarantee we know more men like you than you do.

whatwouldbigfatfannydo · 15/08/2019 08:57

Oh! And sympathetic to the plight of sexual predators... forgot about that one!
I've no skin in that game though, thankfully

whatwouldbigfatfannydo · 15/08/2019 08:55

@bunslinger

So, he's misogynistic, sexist, racist and disablist now!?

I'm a mixed race woman who happens to have genetic conditions that cause mobility issues to the point I need a wheelchair and other aids. I'd love to meet this twat Grin

bunslinger · 15/08/2019 08:49

Robert has predictably misogynistic views on sport too: "if women need a special event because of the genetic disadvantages that handicap them, perhaps that should be in the paralympics"

Because obviously women are just defective men.

GirlDownUnder · 15/08/2019 08:40

I believe RobertJameson means all of his words.

So when he said I've said my bit. I’d not expect to see him back.

Nothing to do with inability to refute the arguments here, or explain how he’s not the things he’s being accused of.

Deliriumoftheendless · 15/08/2019 08:35

Don’t upset him too much or he’ll be telling us about when he gorged on Toblerone and drove to Dundee in his bare feet.

whatwouldbigfatfannydo · 15/08/2019 08:16

Well, thanks for explaining the argument against biological men competing in sports for biological women. That last sentence there sums it up nicely (albeit badly written and shallow). Grin

Also noticed that he had absolutely no counter points for a distinguished academic expert in the field who commented with the words of wisdom we all need. Wink

Would love for this cretin to explain the credentials he possesses that trump Martina Navratilova's expertise on the subject? The self-promotion and progressive 'thought experiments' do not convince me sadly. Grin

The way the LGB community are being treated is horrifying. Their rights are being erased as rapidly as women's are. Organisations like Stonewall have well and truly turned their backs on the very people whom it exists to fight for! Angry

If you ever wanted proof that TRA is the same MRA check this out.
whatwouldbigfatfannydo · 15/08/2019 08:02

@OrchidInTheSun

I'm hoping his daughter is fictitious. Especially after reading the other articles posted here...

What a dangerous man