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Lesbian Strength March and Rally in Leeds on 7 September 2019

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stumbledin · 12/08/2019 19:08

I posted a link to this even some time ago and there have been various comments and more recently one for an organiser of the event which has been really interesting.

Then just now mumsnet have deleted it saying it is because it has a go fund me link in it.

Well I posted that some time ago and nobody said anything. And as I have also posted that on a number of other threads I apologise if they get deleted.

What is the problem.

We are trying to support Lesbians and some red tape that users aren't aware of do this hatchet job.

Why didn't you just deleted the post with the go fund me link.

If I believed in conspiracy theories I would say mumsnet has been nobbled by the lesbian erasure strand of transactivism.

Heavy handed and unecessary.

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Ereshkigal · 18/08/2019 22:13

Don't think that's going to happen. In fact I know that women are planning to come from far afield to show solidarity.

RJFirth · 18/08/2019 22:08

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Ereshkigal · 18/08/2019 21:50

Cllr Field doing this in the midst of intense chemotherapy.

Thanks
YourVagesty · 18/08/2019 21:35

Jesus Sunset, the irony of that decision! It's teeth-itchingly frustrating.

I'd love to go but can't unfortunately. If there's a march closer to me - say in Birmingham or something, I'd definitely go along (I'm in Wales).

Angryresister · 18/08/2019 21:07

Good to know there is action within LCC, incredible it has come to this see you on 7 th

AverageAvenger · 18/08/2019 18:29

Cllr Sarah Field and ward colleagues have been contacted and have asked for urgent explanations, EA assessment and FOI requests. Cllr Field doing this in the midst of intense chemotherapy.

Michelleoftheresistance · 18/08/2019 18:14

From that twitter thread the Leeds Council excuse is that the march 'doesn't foster good relations between people with protected characteristics'?

For Fucks Sake.

No, the TRAs started that one when they pitted men with gender identities directly against the PCs of sex, homosexuality and lesbians in particular. 'Equality' is rapidly starting to mean 'whatever TRAs want' and fuck anyone else. It's like the other PCS don't exist.
Policy capture and against the fucking law, it's misuse of power.

The TRAs buying up tickets and thinking this is some hugely clever thing to do need to put their My Little Pony lunchboxes away and go back to double science please. Its honestly like trying to live around a bunch of hugely spoiled, overgrown children.

stealthsquirrelnutkin · 18/08/2019 17:25

Amazing that Leeds council thinks they have a right to silence lesbian women. Their version of equality really doesn't tolerate the uppity kind of lesbian women who refuse to be subservient to males.

If you do decide to proceed against them I'll be delighted to contribute to the war chest.

stumbledin · 17/08/2019 23:30

And I think quite a few are publicising on spinster.xyz - so now getting known globally!

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stumbledin · 17/08/2019 23:29

And also women are protected under the Equality Act on the basis of sex!

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stumbledin · 17/08/2019 23:22

Hi @PegasusRex

Do you want us to email Leeds Council and point out that it is their duty under the Equality Act to protect the sexual orientation of people, and that lesbians are women who are sexually attracted to other women.

If you do can you say who we should email and / or if we should right to local papers, tv and radio?

Thanks

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Whatisthisfuckery · 17/08/2019 19:06

Me and DP will be there.

WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 17/08/2019 18:17

This.

Lesbian Strength March and Rally in Leeds on 7 September 2019
PegasusRex · 17/08/2019 16:10

for banners anything you fancy. I made the 'lesbian= female homoSEXual' and 'lesbian not queer' banners for Pride. Personally i prefer pro lesbian rather than 'anti' anything else but personal choice. Also banner making is fun Smile

Angryresister · 17/08/2019 14:56

Yes it time Leeds took a good look at what is going on. Looking forward to being there and still welcoming ideas for a banner!

Harriettenightingale · 17/08/2019 12:30

Please do look at bringing a case against Leeds Council for discrimination against you on the grounds of the protected category of sexual orientation. Many many people will support you in whatever you need.

PegasusRex · 17/08/2019 12:00

well i think the best think we can do is have as many lesbians as possible in Leeds on the 7th Sept!

We are following up with the council of course and I'm so annoyed!

Lesbians - please come and help us remind LCC what a lesbian is, i know its difficult because of TRAs but i think the only think we can do is start to be more visible and make people listen

Oldstyle · 17/08/2019 11:22

Leeds Council certainly appear to have more than their fair share of woke misogynists and power-mad women-haters don't they? I saw those ludicrous responses from the anti-lesbian lesbians and was astonished at the bigotry. No surprise that Stonewall are no-where to be seen - seems that adult human female lesbians are no longer of interest to them.
Just hope it doesn't cause the organisers/participants too much distress or inconvenience. More power to your collective elbows ladies!

SunsetBeetch · 17/08/2019 11:08

Guess what the woman friendly Leeds City Council have done now?
They have pulled an ad for our Lesbian Strength March as they say it conflicts with their Public Sector Equality Duty (EA 2010)!
WE ARE LESBIANS! WE ARE WOMEN!
We ARE the duty that they are constantly abandoning.

twitter.com/StrengthLesbian/status/1162354434782957568?s=19

OvaHere · 17/08/2019 01:31

Lol at the idea of lesbians co-opting lesbian identities.

Whatwouldbigfatfannydo · 17/08/2019 00:52

LGB rights are human rights.

Too far away to attend, but the lesbian community has allies here. You won't be erased either.

stumbledin · 17/08/2019 00:41

Have just seen on facebook that a woman from Leeds has complained about the march saying it is in breach of the Equality Act!

It looks like she has got it removed from the Council events guide Leeds Inspired.

Not sure whether any of us such contact them to say it would be against the Equality Act not to support it.

Maybe @PegasusRex you could let us know whether we should try and do something or just ignore their silliness?

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^I'm alarmed to see the Lesbian Strength march advertised on Leeds Inspired: www.leedsinspired.co.uk/even…/lesbian-strength-march

This is an event organised by a transphobic group. You can see on their Eventbrite that they are using the terms "Adult Human Female", which is a rallying cry for "gender-critical" (transphobic and trans-exclusive) activities:
www.eventbrite.com/e/the-lesbian-strength-march-and…

For more on the background of "Adult Human Female" and how it has been used as an anti-trans slogan, see
transleeds.lgbt/whats-wrong-with-woman-adult-human…/
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45650462

The Eventbrite also refers to "Lesbian erasure", an idea promulgated by a small group of anti-trans activists, many of whom are actually straight men and women and have nothing to do with lesbian culture. Mainstream, high-profile lesbians like the editors of DIVA magazine and the leadership of Stonewall are clear that trans-inclusivity is not erasing lesbians at all.

I am a lesbian and live in Leeds. It's really important that we make it clear that this event does not represent lesbians, and is not organised for lesbians: it's for a small group of lesbian and straight women who want to exclude and punish trans women. They are coopting lesbian identity in order to do that.

I think this event violates Leeds City Council's Equality duty, and I'd be really grateful if you could remove it from Leeds Inspired.^

Love the way she tries to imply that anyone who turns up for the march cant be a real lesbian.

Some women are posting on her timeline on facebook to say thanks for letting us know there will be a march, we will now be attending!

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fionnulafanackapan · 16/08/2019 10:50

The march will be fab. The rally will be great and there is music too, and poetry. And lots of banners. Followed by a party where we can meet up and talk and laugh and plan. Wonderful!
Lesbian Strength also have a fb page and @strengthlesbian on twitter
As well as [email protected]

stumbledin · 16/08/2019 00:25

Just to say I am not part of organising this but put up the original thread at the time mumsnet was looking at ways to support lesbians rights.

But now PegasusRex has posted here to say she is part of the group and can answer questions.

I think all I had asked on the first thread was about how to get in touch with the group (there is an email address in the poster upthread) and how anyone could claim money for travel costs if they couldn't afford to travel to Leeds.

I did hear some women in London were trying to arrange hiring a coach for women to travel together but that fell through.

I think it has been posted on spinster.xyz so that's good.

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spinninghag · 15/08/2019 22:40

This is an important event.
Why did HQ delete the other thread?
Solidarity, sisters.