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Issues facing woman and girls worldwide

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Earlywalker · 10/08/2019 09:02

Thought it could be useful to raise awareness of issues facing woman and girls worldwide and discuss what we can do to help them.

Please do feel free to add to the list also as there will be loads that I’ve missed.

It made me very angry writing and researching this:

FGM - ‘the ritual cutting or removal of some or all of the external female genitalia. The practice is found in Africa, Asia and the Middle East, and within communities from countries in which FGM is common’

FGM is still practiced within the UK and is of course illegal here, we have only had one successful prosecution since it was made illegal and it was February this year - www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-47094707

Girls are encouraged to not tell anyone about it, awareness for the communities and those around them is the only way we can end FGM here. With wider efforts needed accords the globe.

Safe access to abortion - this is not just something that happens in third world countries, this is happening on our very doorstep in the UK! Northern Ireland has still not updated its abortion laws. Woman are being forced to continue pregnancies, even if they are raped, even if it was through incest and this needs to change.

Child brides - 140 million girls will become child brides between 2011 and 2020 . Girls who marry before age 18 are typically denied an education, at risk of complications related to premature childbearing, and more vulnerable to intimate partner violence.

Maternal health - The World Health Organization estimates that 800 women die every day from preventable, pregnancy related causes. That’s nearly 300,000 lives per year needlessly lost during what is fundamentally a life-creating event.

Sex based violence 1 in 3 woman Experience physical or sexual abuse in their lifetime. I’m not sure what more I can say on this than attitudes need to change.

Access to education A 2013 report by UNESCO found that 31 million girls of primary school age were not in school, and about one out of every four young women in developing countries had never completed their primary school education. That number represents a huge pool of untapped girl power: that same report suggests that educated women are more likely to get married later, survive childbirth, raise healthy kids, find work, and earn more money, among other positives.

Trafficking of woman and children This is the fastest growing crime in the world, it pulls in an estimated $99billion per year and there’s an estimated 25 million people trapped in forced labour, with an estimated 71% being woman and girls.

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minou123 · 11/08/2019 19:30

That's great info, thank you SuperLoud.
They may have been referred to other opportunities, but I think thier heart was on CAB.

Thanks Fraggling

Fraggling · 11/08/2019 19:25

I don't know minou, sorry, I just give them cash every month!

AnotherAdultHumanFemale · 11/08/2019 19:24

Oh wow thanks for posting the transcrime website ItsAllGoingToBeFine, I was wondering if anyone was recording that since some governments have started recording crimes committed by men as women's crimes. The thought of such skewed statistics is depressing, great to see the real statistics are being collected. It's kind of unbelievable that people have to do that in their own time rather than organisations who are meant to be collecting data.

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 11/08/2019 19:24

Minou, cab will prob vary by region in terms of funding etc

More generally as a volunteer manager type of person if I didn't think someone would be a good fit I would refer them to the local volunteering office for other opportunities.
I might give them specific feedback if I had anything they would find useful.

It's almost more likely funding would be an issue.
No funding for a specialist volunteer manager role.
No funding for hours for a project/ support officer type person to mentor and manage a volunteer (honestly it can be time consuming).
No funding for office space for a volunteer.
No funding to send a volunteer on training courses.

They should have referred to another opportunity really

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 11/08/2019 19:12

Not charities, but (I think) small grassroots orgs which are worth a quick look (seeing as we are doing awareness raising)

wecantconsenttothis.uk/ Tracking deaths through "consensual sex"

kareningalasmith.com/counting-dead-women/ self explanatory

filia.org.uk/ organise feminist conferences with great speakers and really interesting topics covering many of the issues mentioned in this thread.

freedomprogramme.co.uk/introduction-training.php mentioned in thread, but not I think linked

transcrimeuk.com/ Records the increasing issue of crimes being commited by men being recorded as by being by women which really messed up statistics

minou123 · 11/08/2019 19:11

Fraggling and SuperLoud - sorry if this is derailing, I have a quick question if that's ok?

I know someone who would love to volunteer for CAB, but when they went, they were told that due to government funding they couldnt take on volunteers. Is that right?
Sorry for the question. I'm curious if what this person told me was true, or if the CAB just didnt like my friend Blush

Fraggling · 11/08/2019 19:02

It was me -

For anyone not aware of them cab stands for citizens advice bureau.

It was one of dh choices of charity to support and it's a really good one esp with, well, the stuff I said earlier won't repeat myself!

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 11/08/2019 19:01

My mum worked at one of the first CABs in Glasgow. It was v beneficial to women.

Ereshkigal · 11/08/2019 18:58

Transwoman is the correct term for a M T F transsexual.

If it's the "correct term for a MTF transsexual", I'll say "MTF transsexual" then, thanks.

galaxybrain · 11/08/2019 18:58

earlywalker so nearly 300 posts in, what do you think are your personal priorities? You seem most passionate about FGM and trafficking, from the few sentences you have posted about this. What is happening locally to you that appeals to you or that you can get involved in? Would you be willing to report back on what's happening 'on the ground' with any of these groups?

YY to the poster who mentioned CAB. Not sexy but during I Am Kirsty (tv prog) I was internally yelling at her to go to the CAB!

EmpressLesbianInChair · 11/08/2019 18:53

But this thread is not here to discuss transwomen, we are here to discuss issues facing women worldwide.

Ok. At least we’re all clear that we’re only talking about actual women. I donate to WAST (Women Asylum Seekers Together) who were at FiLiA last year.

Earlywalker · 11/08/2019 18:43

I assume you’re asking me since I said it?

Because most women here would reject the terms ‘CIS’ ‘womb-bearer’ etc and are persistent in their fight for using the correct words for what they describe.
Woman is the correct term for an adult human female.
Transwoman is the correct term for a M T F transsexual.

Wanting to use an term that has been deemed offensive by the people you are describing, instead of the accurate definition shows either ignorance or intolerance imo.

But this thread is not here to discuss transwomen, we are here to discuss issues facing women worldwide.

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DejaVulva · 11/08/2019 17:27

such as refusal to use "transwoman"

Why does this upset you, Cohle?

[I've been reading these pages all year and longer. It's very clear to me why most women here refuse to use that term since they prefer not to be hoodwinked by it. Similarly, it seems that they also prefer not to be hoodwinked by "use of pronouns".]

minou123 · 11/08/2019 17:21

They’re recruiting for a “Girls & Gangs - Gender Consultant” although as per OP, victims of child rape surely have bigger worries than gender ID?

If I could just pick up on this point. From what I understand, a gender consultant has nothing to do with gender identity.

From my (limited) experience, the refugee centre I work at, hired a gender consultant.
I think gender consultant is a bit of a rubbish title, because it doesn't explain what they do. They should be called women's rights consultants. They are womens rights activists and often specialise in different areas. For example, some have expert knowledge in VAWG, some on corporate gender issues, others in financial issues impacting women etc.

As they are consultants, their job description does depend on what is required. I'm my experience, she was hired to see if were giving the right support to all the women from the different nationalities we support. The consultant (female btw) was able to take a step back and view all the services we deliver. From that she was able to pin point what we were missing, where we could get resources etc.
She was fantastic and a great support.

For example I'm not perfect and I freely admit that, I can get so enthusiastic about trying to help rebuild these womens lives, that we didnt have a structured grief process in place. We could sympathise with women who have lost husbands, children, family, but we didnt have any resources to help women grieve about their loved ones. Its seems insane now, that we didnt have this.

I'll see if I can find a link to gender consultants.

Earlywalker · 11/08/2019 17:17

In context it makes sense.

I agree with the basics that make someone GC. I agree with a lot of posts, the sports, Yaniv, girl guides etc, disagree with certain posts (such as refusal to use transwoman, protesting at Leeds to then complain when protested back, trans remembrance threads etc)

I am straight to the point and don’t pussy foot around things. If a poster says something I disagree with, I will question it.

I have a mind of my own, I don’t need to follow sheep and exclusively agree with everything someone’s said because I agree with the basics.

Everyone gets very defensive when you dare to question a GC poster or position though, and I will defend my views.

I’m not going to keep justifying this thread, if you don’t think I’m resining awareness in the ‘right’ way, by all means, please, go and do it yourself. Or contribute to this thread with information that you do think is useful, that would be great too.

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LangCleg · 11/08/2019 17:12

If its just something you do for virtue signalling then its not just empty and meaningless, it can actually create risk and that usually lands on people who have already been harmed.

Absolutely blindingly obvious point. Inch deep, mile wide - really does not help.

Feminism is not clictivism.

BernardBlacksWineIceLolly · 11/08/2019 17:09

Then if you know they’re men, why do you keep arguing with us on the GC threads?

I'd really like to know the answer to this. It's often not clear at all to me what your position is on a number of issues

EmpressLesbianInChair · 11/08/2019 17:04

I’ve already said I don’t believe TW are women, is that what you want to hear?

Then if you know they’re men, why do you keep arguing with us on the GC threads? Confused

Imnobody4 · 11/08/2019 17:01

Early
I'm a bit non plussed by your post. It's so vast and nebulous. I would have been more engaged if you'd shared some projects that had been successful for example.
I really can't believe you think women on FWR aren't aware of all these issues.
The links you've offered are again scattergun and unreliable
KMEWO is in the process of merging with the Middle East Centre for Women’s Rights - nothing has been posted on this site this year.
I find it really hard to know what response you wanted. I already donate to charities and give clothes etc and have signed petitions and written to my MP.

Earlywalker · 11/08/2019 16:59

I don’t want anyone to take a link at face value and I didn’t get annoyed that they didn’t Confused

I’ve already said I don’t believe TW are women, is that what you want to hear?

Will post re my thought re FGM once kids asleep, long topic, lots to say.

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TheInebriati · 11/08/2019 16:57

Quality, not quantity. Its no good getting annoyed just because pp wont take a googled link at face value. Provide some in depth, meaningful info or stop getting annoyed that people ask questions.

People who are genuine get involved with an issue or charity because of personal involvement, and thats how it should be. It should mean something to you.
If its just something you do for virtue signalling then its not just empty and meaningless, it can actually create risk and that usually lands on people who have already been harmed.

There have been many threads about issues faced by women, and about serious issues in charities, including major breaches in safeguarding. No one here wants to give their hard earned cash to enable abusers.

Cohle · 11/08/2019 16:55

I wonder why the fact that it's a parenting forum (except MN isn't, really) seems particularly relevant to you?

It's relevance is as a description of the site.

The name is mumsnet, the by-line is "by parents, for parents" - it's a parenting forum. I'm not sure why that's controversial, obviously non-parents and non-parenting issues are perfectly welcome here.

LangCleg · 11/08/2019 16:48

Your googling has really helped.

Grin Grin Grin

Okay, I'll still be laughing tomorrow. Just as well I don't believe in heaven cos I'd never get there.

Fraggling · 11/08/2019 16:48

I also know there are a wide range of views amongst women from the communities it affects in the uk around how best to tackle it so would be good to get your take.

EmpressLesbianInChair · 11/08/2019 16:47

Early, I think at least some of this would be cleared up if you’d answer my question about how you’re defining women & girls? As a sex or as an identity?