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Isn't Helen Webberley still prevented from providing services in UK?

259 replies

LoveGrowsWhere · 06/08/2019 10:43

Because she's being quoted as an expert in this article.
inews.co.uk/news/puberty-blockers-transgender-rights-nhs-gender-clinic-uk-tavistock/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

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DuLANGMondeFOREVER · 05/03/2020 02:44

That seems more logical Datun, considering the vast majority of the KF cows are white 🤗

Datun · 05/03/2020 02:33

Is it racist?? Bloody hell I thought it was related to the narcissists 'monkey dance'?

www.google.com/amp/s/robertmgoldstein.com/2016/01/04/the-monkey-dance-of-the-narcissist/amp/

DuLANGMondeFOREVER · 05/03/2020 01:56

That’s racist, btw.

It is?

Goddamn I’m a Pollyanna, I thought it literally applied to chimps - famously angry animals: m.youtube.com/watch?v=SFgIszVt-ik

To clarify, I am personally using it to describe an anonymous person of unknown race who is behaving akin to an angry chimpanzee.

StrangeLookingParasite · 05/03/2020 01:27

I am guessing you have always felt the same gender that matched your physical appearance

As wrong as all the other bullshit you've spouted. Oh, and I don't believe you're who you say you are, either.

blubellsarebells · 05/03/2020 01:18

No my mind has not always aligned with my body, i was what was known in the 90s as a tomboy.
I remember my mum buying me a dress from a charity shop, where most of our clothes came from, and having a crying fit when she made me wear it.
Awful flowery flowing thing it was.
I didnt not want to wear it because i thought i was a boy, but because it didnt suit my personality or style and was wholly incompatible with who i was and the life i wanted to, and had always been allowed to live.
I can only guess it was a big party or a wedding or some such because i had never been made to wear anything so awful before.
I never had tantrums as a child but that day i did.
I was allowed to have short hair and sometimes i got stopped going into the ladies toilets on more than one occasion, which looking back seems very odd because even if people thought i was a boy at 10 or eleven years old im only 5 foot 1 now so must have been tiny then.
In my teens i suffered from an eating disorder. Into my early 20s, still rears its ugly head sometimes actually.
So no my mind did not match my body. At all.
Still doesnt really, i perceive myself to be much taller than i am.
I get shocked when i meet other small people and find out im the same size, very annoying and perception smashing when i have to ask a man to help me reach for something. I hate having to do that.
I know what a mismatch feels like.
The difference is nobody offered me diet pills or liposuction and said there there.
Good job really because i was already under 6 stone with no help from anyone.
No one is gonna offer me tall surgery either.
These girls are being failed and lied to. Humans cannot change sex.

BritneyPeedOnALadybug · 05/03/2020 01:18

Yes, me too. What do they call this kind of behaviour over on the Farms again? Oh yeah

‘Chimping out’

That’s racist, btw.

R0wantrees · 05/03/2020 01:14

thread of pesky facts matters of pubic record about Dr Helen Webberley, Dr Mike Webberley & their online business GenderGP:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3598778-Dr-Helen-and-Dr-Mike-Webberley-matters-of-public-record

Datun · 05/03/2020 00:58

I mean it’s not like a trans person who uses Gender GP would have any more knowledge of this subject than the great elite who copy and paste things they see fit to try and prove themselves right, but refuse to acknowledge any actual facts given to them.

Correct.

Except 'facts' obvs.

R0wantrees · 05/03/2020 00:48

Oh and thank you to whoever copied and pasted the meaning of gender dysphoria, I never knew what it was until you gave me your wonderful copied and pasted words of wisdom from the internet.

Silly me for trying to educate you on the inaccuracy of the British Press and internet. I mean it’s not like a trans person who uses Gender GP would have any more knowledge of this subject than the great elite who copy and paste things they see fit to try and prove themselves right, but refuse to acknowledge any actual facts given to them.

That was an important BMJ paper published last year by Professor Carl Heneghan (Head of Oxford's Evidence-Based Medicine & editor in chief of EBM BMJ)

The link to it is at the end. Its important research & reading.
Extracts quoted are opening & concluding paragraphs.

It found that,
"The current evidence base does not support informed decision making and safe practice in children."

Biscuit
FloralBunting · 05/03/2020 00:41

Ah, and I was being all reasonable and nice. I bet everyone was wondering what was wrong with me.

See where being nice gets you, eh? I might as well be a sweary gobshite after all.

DuLANGMondeFOREVER · 05/03/2020 00:39

Cw - the subject of this thread is Helen Webberley's suspension and criminal charges.

I checked whether posters on this thread were, as you say, misinformed. On this matter you are incorrect. There was a hearing recently (Jan 2020) and the suspension remains.

www.mpts-uk.org/hearings-and-decisions/interim-orders-tribunals/dr-helen-webberley

Fantastic news.

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 05/03/2020 00:37

I mssed the you are vile bits!
I'm telling you Ro you are a power house!! I liked the part where the said about the copy and pasting Grin

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 05/03/2020 00:32

Cw. Did you got the screenshots you wanted.
You liar.
You have made it abundantly obvious that you have no interest in hearing anything other than negative comments which is actually quite sad.

I told you about my child, my 3 year old tried to understand it from your pov by can't. So please explain it without saying you are bitches and don't understand. I'm listening.

Datun · 05/03/2020 00:30

It’s why the transactivists hate Mumsnet too. We just aren’t taking care of the poor, defenceless little darling’s psychological needs in the way that nice mummies should.

Indeed. And why there is such support to keep the Webberleys and their fans away from our kids. All kids.

DuLANGMondeFOREVER · 05/03/2020 00:28

Here’s something I posted earlier (in relation to the person who chimped out in the Guardian morning meeting). Seems relevant again somehow...

Jess’ actions in relation to the Suzanne Moore article put me in mind of this extract from a Quillette piece by Marcus Evans, former governor of the Tavistock:

Basic biological realities and differences between sexes can provoke intense feelings of exclusion in some members of the trans community. Every person is different, but some individuals seem to believe that they have been traumatically excluded from their rightful female gender, and so any attempt by natal women to exclude them is experienced as a psychological attack (as evidenced by their sometimes shockingly intense expressions of anger at biological women).

^I believe that this sensitivity to exclusion from female spaces is sometimes related to unconscious anxieties and grievances associated with traumatic separation from the primary carer. This helps explain why some members of the trans community act as if their psychological wellbeing hinges on their right to enter any female space whatsoever, even though biological women can feel this to be intrusive and threatening*.

It’s why the transactivists hate Mumsnet too. We just aren’t taking care of the poor, defenceless little darling’s psychological needs in the way that nice mummies should.

quillette.com/2020/01/17/why-i-resigned-from-tavistock-trans-identified-children-need-therapy-not-just-affirmation-and-drugs/

WeetabixBananaHipsterFFS · 05/03/2020 00:26

The modern ‘laters’ juxtaposed with something last heard uttered by Basil Fawlty...

MrsWooster · 05/03/2020 00:25

Ah yes. These unregulated meds must wreak havoc

DuLANGMondeFOREVER · 05/03/2020 00:25

Or the illegally prescribed hormones.

MrsWooster · 05/03/2020 00:24

Well, Cw seems nice. Perhaps a result of the single counselling session they say they received as the psychological part of their transition.

DuLANGMondeFOREVER · 05/03/2020 00:24

Yes, me too. What do they call this kind of behaviour over on the Farms again? Oh yeah

‘Chimping out’

Datun · 05/03/2020 00:23

I thought we were 'ladies'???

WeetabixBananaHipsterFFS · 05/03/2020 00:23

Laters bints

Unusual yet, uh, cute Grin

Bye now.

Cw19752 · 05/03/2020 00:22

You really all are vile hateful specimens aren’t you.

Datun · 05/03/2020 00:22

Misogyny and huge narcissistic meltdown.

Should be taught in schools. Especially the knowledge of quite how little it takes to trigger.

Plus I think you called it right the first time DuLang.

WeetabixBananaHipsterFFS · 05/03/2020 00:20

The skirt thing - well even in this day you don’t send your son to school in a skirt because it was and still is seen as a feminine item of clothing.

Not true. A boy at our primary school has been wearing ‘girls’’ clothes for a while, but afaiaa is not identifying as trans. Doesn’t seem to be causing any major issues (though it’s a school community likely to tend away from sexism and homophobia, so may not be representative).