"An open wound...": horrific detransitioner story

I think that’s a bit of a leap too far, Wrath. Not really fair comment. They’re people with a right to privacy and dignity. Not at the expense of ours, but that isn’t what we’re talking about,

I think people who feel very alienated from their bodies, for any reason, may be more likely to try prostitution, or for that matter other self-destructive sexual practices, that someone who doesn't have that kind of problem. Usually with prostitution there is also a financial pressure of course.

On top of that they seem to have been railroaded into transition by another person who quite possibly was unstable. It isn’t like the jazz Jennings case or other accounts at all.

Except Jennings mother decided that they were really a girl as a toddler. I doubt Jazz can really even remember being treated as a boy.

This is incredibly sad.

TW do tend to resort to prostitution or end up in industries that involve 'selling their bodies'.
It's not a taboo to them, is it?

I think that’s a bit of a leap too far, Wrath. Not really fair comment. They’re people with a right to privacy and dignity. Not at the expense of ours, but that isn’t what we’re talking about,

Poor love. Where are the medical ethics?

A quick Google finds lots of articles clearly telling us that brain development continues well into the twenties. And the sex hormones are likely to play a part in neuro & physical as well as genital. So despite the claim that 'kids know who they are and should be affirmed', the medical profession must surely be aware that mutilating unfinished minds, bodies and brains goes directly against their Hippocratic oath?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24173194

I can kind of understand the need to remove a penis, and I can kind of understand the need for it to look like a vulva, but the only thing I can seem to take from the need for a numb, smelly, deep-enough hole is for someone else’s benefit. What am I missing?

So grim, could they not just have anal sex? Could the hole be closed up and poor person have a better life that way? They are a gay male so surely that could be an option for potential partners?

That’s heartbreaking!

They were fucking groomed by a predator.

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Nothing. You're missing nothing, and you've nearly highlighted yet another gross element to this. As if there weren't enough already.

It’s been pointed out on here before, but the only reason there is any “depth” created is so a man can stick his penis in it. I don’t understand why there needs to be a deep-enough hole. I can kind of understand the need to remove a penis, and I can kind of understand the need for it to look like a vulva, but the only thing I can seem to take from the need for a numb, smelly, deep-enough hole is for someone else’s benefit. What am I missing?

I can't imagine that anyone's experience of having a "neo-vagina"/stinking, infected, skin cavity with no sexual feeling, is not going to be deemed by them a "bad experience" in the long term. Especially if groomed into having one before the age of 30.

Sophocles yes there are people who regret. I agree there should be much more therapy and checks first. There used to be I believe. It has become a social fad in some cases. Important to hear the bad experiences as well.

whole flesh tunnel trend 20 bloody years ago

I’m hoping that in 20 years all this transgender shit will be a thing of the past, or at least the subject of a lot of regret-filled litigation.

littlecabbage and codenamevillanelle thank you. And.. yikes! to the need for dilators. Agree that obviously skin that wasn't ment to be internal will of course have problems being forced to be in hot moist damp condition all the time.

Imagine going through all that surgery and recovery and infections and regular dilation entails, but you'll never actually ever be able to enjoy sex.... and your feeling of wrongness doesn't go away because they treated a mental health condition as if it was biological.

Is it unusual, field? To me it seems we will hear more and more about this as the inevitable result of the sheer scale of cultural grooming on this topic going on right now.

What’s your suggestion of how we prevent any more people going through what this poor, poor child did?

Do you think regretting transition is a thing, or not?

Watch out for that twitter link, when I tried to navigate away I suddenly got a vid of someone (male bodied) wanking in a women’s toilet. Which isn’t the sort of thing I usually see on Twitter or at this time in the morning.

Keep defending this stuff field. My comment up thread is about people like you who think this kind of despicable surgical mutilation is an acceptable thing to sanitize as a response to emotional distress. You carry on showing everyone how keen you are to to keep on promoting it.

That does sound very sad.

It’s also seems extremely unusual. The persons account has no history mentioned of how they felt when they were younger. Did they see themself as a girl? Want to be one? Hate their male body? How did they feel about it? No internal life or emotions reported which is unusual.

On top of that they seem to have been railroaded into transition by another person who quite possibly was unstable. It isn’t like the jazz Jennings case or other accounts at all.

It's not a wound in that it will heal. But the cavity is always trying to heal closed, which is why they need to dilate with dilators for years after surgery to avoid losing the depth.

Reading that has made me cry. I recently received the news that a young relative has just had a double mastectomy. “He” has been on testosterone and has drastically changed appearance. It makes me so sad. I try to be kind and not say anything to upset my relative, but I am weeping inside. My closer family know my GC views, but I dare not say anything to friends or publicly, so I am anonymous on Twitter.

So sorry that this is incoherent, I have tears in my eyes.

Bastards! TemporaryPermanent that's a really good point. We collectively need to do everything we can to prevent this sort of butchery being seen as positive or aspirational.
I'm just desperately hoping y children get to 25 avoiding this awfulness.

This is an incredibly sad story, I cannot begin to imagine the grief this person must feel for what they have lost.

I found this on twitter and didn't know where to put it so I'm adding it here because it's an example of how gender critical thinking helped another person reach self acceptance without hormones and radical surgery.

mobile.twitter.com/ThatRadGayBoy/status/1157504507103891456

Sorry for the graphic question, but if the "vagina" is an inverted penis skin, how is that a wound?

I agree that once the initial surgery has healed (i.e. the lines where one part of the inverted skin has been sutured to another part), it is no longer a "wound". But as previously stated, skin was not designed to line internal cavities, and will develop infections in that situation.