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Telegraph column - not even attempting to hide AGP

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BretonDinosaur · 02/08/2019 19:08

It’s behind a paywall, will post screenshots in next post

David Thomas is a 60 year old man, who according to his Telegraph column is still living as a man whatever that means. He is transitioning and he is writing about it in his weekly column. In the past he gave us Not Guilty: The Case in Defence of Men which is described as a rebuttal of feminist charges against men. So I think he’s established his misogyny credentials, which raises the question of why he wants to transition to emulate womanhood?

It’s so clear from the above article that it’s sexual arousal. He talks about his growing breasts in a clearly lascivious way. It’s not even gently disguised or denied. The AGP is front and centre in the article.

Yet we’re still not allowed to discuss it. We’re not allowed to point out that many men get off on the idea of being seen as a woman. They talk about it openly but the activists who seek to remove women’s rights shout us down as bigots for daring to raise it.

Those who are still championing the be nice/what harm can it do still seem to deny that it’s a driver. How? When it is this blatant how can it not be openly discussed and the risks/behaviours openly managed or challenged.

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BiologyIsReal · 06/08/2019 19:23

Given that the D Tel is gender critical for sure (see today's James Kirkup article for example) readers will be reading this and thinking WTF?
Thomas is shooting himself in the foot with this one.

FormerMediocreMale · 06/08/2019 18:41

I think The Telegraph shouldn't give him a platform for this. It's like a kind of upmarket Jeremy Kyle-fest.

They couldnt explain AGP any better than this, he'll peak thousands!

NottonightJosepheen · 06/08/2019 18:04

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BiologyIsReal · 06/08/2019 17:51

Just read the Julie Bindel article. Well, if anyone ever wanted proof that this is a men's rights movement it is right there in Thomas's background.

HostofDaffodils · 06/08/2019 17:44

The weird thing is that I knew him. Many years ago. Not that well but we inhabited the same place for a few years. He was polite, privileged - but embarassed about those privileges, well-mannered.

Not a hearty Boris Johnson public school type. But, it would seem, deeply screwed-up.

I think The Telegraph shouldn't give him a platform for this. It's like a kind of upmarket Jeremy Kyle-fest.

Campervan69 · 06/08/2019 16:52

From Julie Bindel.

Many of you are thinking this of David Thomas, but choose not to say it:

What women really want? You've got no idea t.co/daeDHM8pKM @unherd

SingingLily · 06/08/2019 13:21

It's a gift, NotttonightJosepheen, Grin and better still, it's one that's hardly likely to be shared by an AGP. They really don't know what goes on inside our heads. They can't possibly, or they wouldn't dress, walk, talk (in a "whiny voice" or otherwise) as they do. Let's face it, actually aspiring to stand in the queue for the ladies...can't say it ever appeared on my list of ambitions in life.

NottonightJosepheen · 06/08/2019 13:09

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Datun · 06/08/2019 12:34

Bloody hell Notto.

That's a little too persuasive for comfort!

NottonightJosepheen · 06/08/2019 12:18

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hipsterfun · 06/08/2019 12:03

possibly has decided that this column will subtly educate the readers whilst avoiding any accusations of transphobia.

It’s certainly working on my mother Grin

TemporaryPermanent · 05/08/2019 17:00

Fascinating about the repeated use of 'having to' use the ladies, 'having to' be there.

This sounds like some kind of submissive fantasy to me; in my short career as a domme this sort of usage came up. So terrified but being forced to do it... Yuk. Hoping the telegraph editor is aware what they're printing.

DuMondeB · 05/08/2019 16:27

"You know how parents tell children who are scared by spiders, ‘It’s much more frightened of you than you are of it’? Well, the same thing applies to transwomen in female-only toilets. However frightened women may be by our presence, we are way, way more petrified by having to be there”

The only thing he’s frightened of encountering in the ladies lav is INVALIDATION.

TemporaryPermanent · 05/08/2019 15:35

Nothing's stopping him using the unisex provision on the train now or in the future.

NottonightJosepheen · 05/08/2019 13:50

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Datun · 05/08/2019 13:04

Yes, I believe it is.

Which ever way you cut it up, whether people are a little suspicious, or downright nauseated, presumably that's the goal. You're right. I can't see any other way now.

Of course, not understanding that this will affect your livelihood, is quite another matter.

SingingLily · 05/08/2019 10:26

I'm quite sure he isn't blind to it, Datun. Isn't audience-participation-without-consent part of the thrill?

Datun · 05/08/2019 10:22

For now, still presenting male, I can use men’s facilities. But every time I get off the train at London Victoria and take my late-middle-aged bladder off to the gents’, I think about the day, not too far off now, when I will have to go into the ladies’ instead."

For the love of God. Is he so blind to his fetish, that he doesn't understand people can see the saliva positively dripping off his chin?

ShouldBeCookingDinner · 05/08/2019 06:43

You only have to look on porn sites to see how popular this is sexually. Men do buy video clips where they are feminised by a woman. Men do have camshows with women while dressed as a woman.

Didactylos · 05/08/2019 05:32

Look, he could develop an equal amount of gynaecomastia by drinking too much alcohol for a period. Many 60 year old men do. And still none of them are women.

Lolyora17 · 05/08/2019 03:04

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Durgasarrow · 05/08/2019 02:52

Just tittering here.

Datun · 04/08/2019 21:33

Some will be genuinely bisexual though. Because some people are.

Of course. What they won't be is heterosexual.

milliepede · 04/08/2019 21:24

He can fuck off to the other sid eof fuck and then fuck off even further, I'm beginning to hate this people.

ConfessionsOfTeenageDramaQueen · 04/08/2019 20:41

I've been meaning to post about DT on here for a while, ever since he wrote a column about women's toilets in which he stated:

"You know how parents tell children who are scared by spiders, ‘It’s much more frightened of you than you are of it’? Well, the same thing applies to transwomen in female-only toilets. However frightened women may be by our presence, we are way, way more petrified by having to be there.

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For now, still presenting male, I can use men’s facilities. But every time I get off the train at London Victoria and take my late-middle-aged bladder off to the gents’, I think about the day, not too far off now, when I will have to go into the ladies’ instead."

Who the fuck thinks that much about using any train station toilet regardless of your sex? You can practically feel the excitement pulsing off the page.