Telegraph column - not even attempting to hide AGP

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Let's face it, sue, you'd be trashing us, even if it was about bringing about world peace and reversing climate change. That's because you're naturally inclined to attack anything we feminists do. If any gender critical feminist appears in a newspaper, magazine or on the TV you're lining up to attack them... even if what they're doing is merely centering women.

If you were sticking to the latter I might have some belief that this wasn't a hate campaign but the fact that you veer so regularly towards the personal and abusive, often for no reason, tells me otherwise.

Haha Lang. Yeah sue stop telling women what to say write and talk about

You are not the thread monitor. Come up with a rational argument ffs

Gosh, Sue, you're sounding very miserable today. It's a bank holiday weekend! Get out and enjoy yourself if FWR is souring your milk. Don't bother with us for summer's last weekend!

Sue I can only imagine you have not been reading his articles. They expose his AGP in every line. But of course we are not allowed to criticise anyone who comes under the Trans umbrella because they are such fragile flowers of would be ladyeehood.

Are we not allowed to challenge stereotypes now, is that one of the new rules? Does that rule apply to any other group I wonder, or just women.

We've just been talking in the Trans Widows thread about how a slight on one trans person is considered to be a slight on all. I can't think of any other group who it is considered should be beyond reproach.

I’m assuming you haven’t actually read the thread, though.

Actually, I find the column very instructive, Sue. David is very good at putting across his perspective and experiences. It’s a very good insight into his mind and thinking.

As a result of that, his misogyny is laid quite bare, and I find that misogyny quite troubling. that’s a very pertinent topic for feminism, don’t you think?

Let's face it, you'd all be trashing what this person wrote, even if it was about bringing about world peace and reversing climate change. That's because you're naturally inclined to attack anything that a trans person does. If any trans person appears in a newspaper, magazine or on the TV you're lining up to attack them... even if what they're doing has nothing do so with any battles over self-ID. If you were sticking to the latter I might have some belief that this wasn't a hate campaign but the fact that you veer so regularly towards the personal and abusive, often for no reason, tells me otherwise.

If the torygraph really wanted to bump the clicks, they should get his wife to write a column too.

She wouldn't need to write. An entire column of eye roll emojis would do the trick.

Watching the film Father of the Bride when we were on holiday and the children were young has gone into family lore, we all cried!

DH and the two DDs weeping at the thought of leaving home for ever/DH not seeing his DD coming down stairs for breakfast every day anymore.
Me because with all the slapstick events that unfolded the poor guy never even got to eat the very expensive wedding meal that everyone else enjoyed at his expense. They didn't even save him a plate for later!

I better tell my burly, bearded penis owning husband that his habit of weeping like a wrung out dishcloth at Sunday night costume dramas means he’s a woman

He blubbed all through our heterosexual wedding, too, so god only knows if we’re married or not now, we didn’t have same sex marriage back then.

So much gone wrong in Dave’s thinking it’s hard to know where to start, other than wishing he would just stop. If the torygraph really wanted to bump the clicks, they should get his wife to write a column too. Get it ghostwritten if she can’t write. It would be golden.

Dh cried effusively at the music from the snowman when we were at a concert a few months ago. Dc sometimes start talking about the movie Up just to see him well up. I am trying to work on their empathy!
How do these people function with all these stereotypes whirling around their head.

I just read that most recent column- what a load of utter, utter bollocks.

My ex (the most recent one not the trans one, ironically) cried so much when we went to see Mama Mia 2 that his neck was all wet.

He was the most manly man I've ever met.

Oh lordy. Mine's a kid health panicker as well!

You're worrying me now, Fanny.

My husband was in bits at the end of ‘Bridge to Terabithia’. Kids had to remind him it was just a film.

Lang my dh is a great weeper. Not so much at period films but just mention one of the dogs long past, or heaven forbid a dd have a tiny scratch or bumped knee to threaten their health for life!

It's a family joke. He's from Venus. I'm from Mars. Don't anyone tell him about the ladybrain.

My DH must be Dave's sister from another mother because he is addicted to period dramas and blubs at all of them.

I never cry at films. I guess it's time to face the truth. I just don't have the right brain after all. 😞

This week's was particularly ghastly I thought. "Why aren't the hormones working yet? I've not gone all weepy all the time, like wot a real laydee would be. (Brief flash of insight: maybe those nasty feminists were right when they said that brains were just brains, unique to individuals. Hasty retreat back into stereotypes because we can't be admitting that now can we?) No, no, turns out I've always cried at films, so I've had a laydee brain all along. Phew. And my female friend says so too (through gritted teeth) so clearly that's right."

Reality is just so inconvenient, isn't it? However, I think Datun was on to something when she said earlier, "He absolutely intends to say he's a woman. The only reason he's not doing it at the moment is, presumably, he hasn't done enough to satisfy his own personal sense of what a 'woman' looks like."

He's awaiting the highly expensive FFS; he's having the speech therapy (learning how to make his voice "slightly whiny" - just like a real woman); he's learning how to sashay. This is a work in progress and one day he will make the big reveal. His ta-dah moment.

Ironic, isn't it? We can roll out of bed in the morning, hair unbrushed, not a scrap of makeup, sometimes looking like death warmed up....and it's still blindingly obvious we are women. No effort at appearance required.

Wtf?? He comes so close to reality- that possibly the way we fulfill gender roles is due to socal conditioning rather than and anything else and then goes off in some fantasy land that he's always been a woman!

I do find him particularly strange though that he has announced to the world that he 'will be' a woman rather than is a woman right now. As he has already got a lady brain why doesn't he just get on with it? What's holding him back? Reality

He’s a woman because he blubs at emotional films, likes wearing dresses and worries all the time. Nothing to do with stereotypes then.