British Woman jailed for 3 years for "false rape claim"

Something about her testimony concerns me. Despite there being no psychiatric evidence she accepts she cannot have been raped, but still maintains she feels she was?

Could she have been raped in the past, repressed the memory and had it come flooding back on the night in question? She had been a person of good character up until this occasion.

Three months seems a tad excessive, and I am leaning towards the view she is a person who needs treatment more than punishment.

I've no doubt it is rare, but the problem is there is no reliable evidence for how rare. It works the same way as actual rapes. Someone quoted 98 percent don't get prosecuted. I assume this is largely because it's one person's word against another and not enough evidence to prove either way which one is telling the truth.
Luckily in this case GPS proved this man was telling the truth, and she has now admitted she has lied, so she has been rightly prosecuted.
But these cases are damaging, they feed into the mind of not just men, but women and police and jurors that this happens.

I suspect they get more coverage for two reasons. 1. It’s rare. 2. It’s more interesting in the sense that it more difficult to understand. Everyone knows why men commit rape but false accusations are hard to understand or rationalise. People will read about them for that reason.

Eight months less than the man who murdered Natalie Connelly and claimed it was a sex game gone wrong.

But if someone claims to have been mugged twice or burgled twice or punched in the face twice then nobody doubts them. People are accept you could have been a victim of a crime more than once.

God forbid you claim to have been sexually assaulted more than once though...

It's about time this happened. Women who do this totally deserve custodial sentences. Not only do they wreck the lives of the man they accuse but they risk other women not being believed in the future.
My sons ex accused him on sexually assaulting her - she had previously accused another boyfriend in an almost identical fashion and yet when no case was found she walked away Scot free. I have no doubt that she will do it again until she wrecks a life.

But Carl Beech made false accusastions of murder. So he'll serve less time in prison than the men he falsley accused would have done. That's like stealing £500 and being made to pay back £400.

I thought the average sentence for rape was two years. Please correct me if I'm wrong. If that's true three years seems harsh. Not that she shouldn't get punished but surely it is worse to actually rape someone? The recent 18 year sentence for false accusations against establishment figures also seems strange given how short sentences are for child abuse etc. Yes everyone should be punished but the law definitely seems harder towards those who falsely accuse than those found guilty of actual rape/sexual abuse.

I'll take your word for it.

My source for the additional allegations against Luke Williams is the website, but these are pretty specific. I cannot imagine that they would be made up, and there would be a case to answer against the website owner if they were untrue.

The entire case hinged on the witness for the prosecution who had sex with her when she was 14, below the age of consent. His evidence that he had sex with her when she was 14 was evidence that she was not a lesbian and had previously had consenual sex with a man. His testimony was an admission of child abuse. No charges were brought.

Oh OK bye.

I actually commented on a thread ages ago how I thought it was weird the first man she was accused was convicted in the first place if it was a false accusation. I realise miscarriages of justice happen but given how high the bar is set in order to convict people of criminal offences along with the attitude towards rape in general I just thought it was a bit suspect. In the end I concluded that it was either a rare case of a miscarriage of justice or he had in fact raped her but she also falsely accused other men which naturally shed doubt on her first claim.

even tho one of the others has six other allegation of rape or child sexual abuse to his name (no convictions!)?

Do you have a source for this other than her parents word?

even tho one of the witnesses for the prosecution was a man who sexually abused her as a child?

Again, was this confirmed? Or are we just taking Beale's word for it?

You reckon Jemma Beales conviction is solid?

• even tho one of them was convicted for raping her (later released), even although he admitted she was too drunk to consent, even tho he was assessed by the probation service to be a high risk to women?

• even tho one of the others has six other allegation of rape or child sexual abuse to his name (no convictions!)?

• even tho one of the witnesses for the prosecution was a man who sexually abused her as a child?

This is why women dont report rape, because if you do, you could be looking at 10 years for doing so.

Charges aren’t brought in 98.5% of cases, so there’s no danger whatsoever of every single woman reporting a rape being believed, is there?

I think every report needs to be taken seriously and investigated thoroughly.

You ended by saying "What else is there to say?" about this case.

This case directly prompts the question.

Is it always wise to believe a woman who says she's been raped?

How does that relate to anything I said?

How do you prove a false rape claim? I mean really? If he is tried for rape and it comes back lack of evidence do you then go after the woman,? Because this seems to be where we are heading

As a young adult I went to the police to report a man exposing himself to me as a slightly older adult I didn't report the man who raped me because I knew it wouldn't stick

My daughter reported sexual abuse the cps threw it out "lack of evidence" children's services berated me for the next 12 months because they claimed I didn't believe my child (I did) threatened to remove my younger children and give them to my daughters abuser which makes zero sense to me but he had to have contact as his "rights" had I known it would have gone down like this I would have fucking moved away before he was released by the police and divorced him on those grounds now five years on I'm in limbo he sees his kids I keep my daughter safe he wont let me have a divorce and because he wasnt convicted i can't use them as grounds for divorce

So how do you prove the rights and wrongs of a story?

Plus that website is run by her parents. So I think it's fairly safe to say it's pretty biased.

If Jemma Beale is your 'go to' case to prove your point no further debate is needed.

Layla Ibraham was defintley a victim of a miscarriage of justice. Only a fool would think otherwise.

Jemma Beale though? I thought that was a pretty open and shut case. She lied and was punished accordingly.

I am super skeptical of these "false rape allegation" stories.

There are way too many cases where women have been sentenced for what looks to me like reporting rape.

Layla Ibraham
www.theguardian.com/society/2016/nov/05/woman-accused-of-faking-rape-bids-to-clear-name-layla-ibrahim

and Jemma Beale
www.jemmabeale.info/

are two from the top of my head, where women have been jailed for reporting sexual violence - in Beale's case for 10 years.

The man who police arrested for Hood's rape didn't match the description that Hood gave of her attacker, which calls into question whether they have arrested the correct person.

The conviction rate for reported rape in England and Wales is 1.5%, I am utterly convinced that police are using the threat of prosecution as a way of shutting down rape cases, and prosecuting some rape victims in the process..

Remember not so long ago we had a woman who was fined for wasting police time when she tried to report her ex-boyfriends behaviour prior to him murdering her. The police officer still defends that decision.

Dearh grip
Is it always wise to believe a woman who says she's been raped?

False accusations can indeed ruin lives.

Real accusations? Don’t worry, you probably won’t even be charged.

This man wasn’t charged. I’m sure the experience was traumatic.

They figured out she was lying, they charged her, she was found guilty.

What else is there really to say?

Why are the words false rape claim in inverted commas in the thread title?

Yes, I have noticed more convictions for false rape accusations which serve to whip both men and women into hysteria and damage real rape victims. I have rarely heard about rape cases in the national news unless it is a celebrity or serial rapist because it is not important enough to talk about.

Of course men have a higher chance of being raped than to have a false allegation made against him, but that stat doesn't fit the narrative.

Also you rarely hear sympathy for the victims of rape and how their lives have been changed forever.