To those who visit the board and believe in gender identity, what is your solution?

I'm still waiting for you to tell me how a detailed description of the difference between the lives and men and women is going to change your position on this matter. It's not, is it?

Most people still think "penis = man & vagina = woman" I'm merely here to educate people on why that isn't the case

It over 99% of the population it is the case.

Around .02% of people are intersex, which is to do with chromosomes unlike trans.

Can you post links to the studies you mentioned. Others have already posted links to disprove the "gendered brain". So post yours that prove it so we can be educated rather than just your say so.

I don't know why some are like this, it's unfortunate because I adore having these sorts of conversations with those willing to be educated

@mewk Same, I actually think this thread is an interesting discussion so far, one that people are feeling they can speak on ( couple who don't like it, and have to resort to insults or laughter, but that's to be expected)

What, outside of biological functions that not every woman experiences makes you feel like a woman?

Nothing. Take it all away and it's just personality. Much of my daily experiences every day of my life has impacted my personality and so my biology has impacted this - pre children I was actually a very different person.

My boobs were for performing femininity as I'd been taught and I was happy with them. Now I use one to keep baby asleep in the early hours and I'm proud of the technique I've established in order to do so and sleep mn at the same time. It's now much bigger than the other one but that's how much I value my sleep.

Now, using my biology in the way it's supposed to be I generally just feel
the essence of tiredness.

It's impossible to define what it feels like to be a woman as every woman's experience is different, but biology is essentially the same. I never had period pain but I'm still a woman. My friends haven't had children but they're still female.

It's possible to define the personality that likes a type of clothing and activity, feminine if we have to. But Biology is biology.

PetrolBastard and Roses, I'm still waiting for you to explain how living as a man is different from living as a woman. I think there is no difference between living as a man and living as a woman. Are there activities or something that I might be able to do if I was a man which I can't do as a woman? I can't think of any. Are there any activities which I can do which a man can't? I can't think of anything apart from the obvious biological functions.

Guys - don’t give it houseroom. Please. Half the problems in this area have come about because for some reason we don’t feel able to tell bullshitters they’re bullshitters

"It?"

"Bullshitters?"

Who's that you're referring to then?
We're entitled to our opinions and experiences.
So the bat signal plea to ignore us, fair enough if people want to that's up to them but there's two sides to a discussion.
That's kind of the whole point of one.

@RosesAndRaindrops

I don't know why some are like this, it's unfortunate because I adore having these sorts of conversations with those willing to be educated

@mewk
@TheBigBallOfOil please if you can't be open enough to consider points that oppose to your own, at least be civil than childish

That's just it, isn't it? Why the fall back to blah bullshitters?
If you don't want to listen or engage, fair enough - just why act like 5 year old when it comes to stuff you don't want to hear?
Do you.
Instead of crying bullshitters, or people posting pictures of essence bottles to mock

@TheBigBallOfOil please if you can't be open enough to consider points that oppose to your own, at least be civil than childish

Most people still think "penis = man & vagina = woman" I'm merely here to educate people on why that isn't the case

You are in your every right to hold your opinions, but that's all they are,, opinions

Top bit was meant to be bolded as was a comment from the thread

I read that blog. This is the final paragraph and it really just is all about the stereotypes.I loathe shopping for clothes and don't wear make up. I can't knit, well unless you want a really long scarf with poor tension and I'd much rather be in the pub. I don't watch sport or read Cosmo.
So what am I?

OK. I've not read that blog.
My thoughts though - I'm a woman. (Biological). I never wear make up. I can't be arsed to shave my legs.
Into sci fi, space, can't be doing with so called girly stuff like spas, sleepovers, dolls when I was a kid etc
Still know I can like all those things and still be 100% woman though

Why are you on this thread if you don't want to hear what people who don't agree with you have to say? This is the last place for you to be encouraging other people not to listen to the opinions of others. That's the purpose of the thread.

@NeurotrashWarrior actually I'm not! Could you give me a summary please? (my phone is on 12% sorry)

I personally am majoring (well, trying to) researching autism, so I always welcome more studies on things I'm not 100% on!

Also, mewk, intersex is not the same as trans.

Studies show that trans people have the brain chemistry and makeup of the "opposite" of their gentials, so it actually aligns with their gender not their sex

Really? Can you post a link to some of these studies?

'Lady brains'. On a feminist forum. Do you really think we're going to swallow that?

Men do have bigger brains than women, I wonder why trans men don't have bigger heads and trans women don't have smaller heads 🤷‍♀️

Guys - don’t give it houseroom. Please. Half the problems in this area have come about because for some reason we don’t feel able to tell bullshitters they’re bullshitters.

Mewk, you'll be familiar with this then:

sfonline.barnard.edu/neurogenderings/eight-things-you-need-to-know-about-sex-gender-brains-and-behavior-a-guide-for-academics-journalists-parents-gender-diversity-advocates-social-justice-warriors-tweeters-facebookers-and-ever/

I am very clear on what has made me feel like a woman: having periods, having boobs, having sex, being pregnant, giving birth, breastfeeding, employment issues due to being pregnant or being a mother, discrimination based on my sex, men grabbing at my body, men making me feel extremely uncomfortable

But not all women would have experienced all or some of these. You cite specific biological functions as how you identify as a woman. Had you not have experienced those functions would you still feel like a woman? If so, how? What, outside of biological functions that not every woman experiences makes you feel like a woman?

and I am the Queen of Sheba. No really, I am.

Yes - brains are plastic. A gendered world creates gendered brains detectable on brain scans. (See the Gendered Brain by Gina Rippon, a neuroscientist)

So does learning a second or third language.

The brains of taxi drivers with the knowledge are very different to those without.

No, the brain science of gendered brains is not fact, it's rather shakey science. The brain scans of different sexes and people who say they are trans are not that different. F to M trans are slightly different as the testosterone thins out something in the back of the brain. This is not because they are born with Male brains, this is because of the testosterone they have taken. Quite happy to link to sources if you want me to.

@TheBigBallOfOil I am currently working under doctors (neuroscience PhD) who have been researching this, it'd be wild if their work was "lies" lol

And being intersex is nothing to do with being trans. You have been misled, or are trying to mislead.