To those who visit the board and believe in gender identity, what is your solution?

It’s all vaguely reminiscent of those kind of pink wafty terribly feminine adverts for body spray or jam rags that used to be around in the 80s
Christ

I'll try again. There should have been an image in my last post.

Oh we’re back to essences again? Weren’t we here about two minutes ago?
Sometimes I genuinely gape at the capacity of the human race for utter daftness.

Now people are disingenuously claiming that they don't know the difference between men and women. It's all just obfuscation

Yep, I'm just like whatever now

See, there's just no point in even trying is there lol

Now people are disingenuously claiming that they don't know the difference between men and women. It's all just obfuscation. You know what the difference is. We know what the difference is.

Essence of woman.

Can it be extracted with a wand?

I dunno, give it a try
Do an "Accio essence!" next time you're out

How do you describe a feeling
Because it's not a feeling, it's the essence of me
Not my personality,
Not what I'm wearing,
This is why it's circular.
It can't be explained.
Doesn't mean it's not real though

If I was wanting to become a man though (which I don't) it'd mean outwardly living and presenting as a man as much as possible.

But you haven't explained how this is different from living as a woman. Can you give some specific examples of ways in which living as a man is different from living as a woman? For example, if I were to swap lifestyles with my husband, the only change I would have to make would be to learn to use his chainsaw. But some women already use chainsaws, so that wouldn't mean I was 'living as a man' any more than I am now.

I honestly can't think of any differences between living as a man and living as a woman apart from biological stuff like peeing standing up and pregnancy.

How can I live and present as a man? I don't understand what this means, if not about appearance or biology.

and heard lots of stories about what it feels like to be a woman

It's not relevant here though.

ergo to live as a man requires no more than mere presentation and when asked what this presentation entails you won't/can't respond and you don't seem to grasp how insulting and reductive it is to reduce the human sexes to nothing more than mere presentation.

No. I'm not reducing it to just looks.
If I'm biologically female, how else could I automatically live and present as a man? It comes down to looks in that sense as you just need to see threads on here about whether people "pass" or not.
Of course there's more to being a woman than just appearance.

• it'd mean outwardly living and presenting as a man as much as possible. I mean you can't change your biology, but you could live and present as a man.*

When I read this sort of thing, I feel like I'm missing something spectacular.

If a woman is defined by biology, how can a man present as a woman? How can anyone present as something that's biological? Present just refers to aesthetics? Wear women's/mens clothes, make-up, cut/grow your hair? Which is obviously bullshit?

We could have threads hundreds and hundreds of pages long about what it feels like to be a woman

I can believe that, I've read some on here. I've also been to baby groups and heard lots of stories about what it feels like to be a woman.

It's not relevant here though.

^If I was wanting to become a man though (which I don't) it'd mean outwardly living and presenting as a man as much as possible.
I mean you can't change your biology, but you could live and present as a man^.

Roses that is what you have said, ergo to live as a man requires no more than mere presentation and when asked what this presentation entails you won't/can't respond and you don't seem to grasp how insulting and reductive it is to reduce the human sexes to nothing more than mere presentation. Nor do you seem capable of understanding the intended and unintended consequences of that.

I like men with long hair and eyeliner too!

It has nothing to do with the length of your hair. Being a woman and feeling like a woman is incredibly complex. We could have threads hundreds and hundreds of pages long about what it feels like to be a woman. Which is why it's the perfect topic to avoid the issue.

Shame, I quite like blokes with long hair. And ones who wear eyeliner

So do I

Shame, I quite like blokes with long hair. And ones who wear eyeliner.

Of course. Short hair and trousers = man. Long hair and dresses = woman. It's so simple

Erm...... OK. That's what was said.