Doyoumind
"The thread got to 1000 posts because a chunk of it was spent picking apart what posters had said without stating a clear opinion or solution"
I hope you will see below in the reference to Trans Racial Identity issue - this is not a complicated issue to solve - If women had the physical punch of a black man - the trans gender identity would be seen as an afront to all women.
Given that women do not have the physical punch but in a Democracy - if women unite they can force the "trans women" to be recognised as a mentally ill man, who needs all the love and care as is given to a anorexic girl who believes she is too fat.
I wrote this a few days ago as a reply to @ScottishJenn in the thread that came about from @overpowering twitter thread.
By the time I came to posting it, the thread was locked, however seems a pity to waste it, I will pretend that this is the continuation of that thread. So my two pennies worth
Reply to ScottishJenn - to challenge her support for TWAW
"Now, I'm keen to know how exactly you think belittling my intelligence, my autonomy, my capacity and my looks is feminist."
I did defend all the women being criticised in Erin's twitter thread, I specifically praised their mind/intelligence and would have praised the looks as well, if the twitter character limit would have allowed.
I did not defend your autonomy because as you know very well, Emma Burnell was forced to make a Stalinist Confession and affirm the TWAW dogma publicly on twitter after her original heretical tweet.
Erin replied to my defence of women/girls by kind of agreeing with me – as far as I remember but I can not now specifically confirm that because guess what, she has been silenced as well!
How many high profile women in the Labour Party currently have expressed the opinion that trans women are men - in PUBLIC?
Facts speak for themselves.
Since the invention of clothing, all men have wanted to see women in a state of undress. Women could grant this wish but if she did not, until now, they had to risk doing some thing illegal – peeping tom etc etc
Since the Invention of Civilisation some men have wanted access to a lone woman in a private space or room for criminal purposes. Until now, they had to do something illegal to access these places.
In 2019, any man can see undressed Women and Girls and get access to a lone woman in Woman’s Public Bathroom by claiming to feel like a “woman”.
This is perfectly legal. There is no way to disprove a “feeling”!
"Trans hate crimes have gone up 81% in the past year you know, you claim to support trans rights yet I've never seen a single GC person ever post about how abhorrent and tragic that it. I have seen some celebrating it though...."
This is a very anti-feminist, even if we do not challenge the 81% figure, the sentence is disingenuous, without actual numbers and bodies.
The number of women murdered by current or ex-partner is one every three days in the UK (or one every 16 hours in the USA). How many transwomen are murdered every week by any anybody? (spoiler – one per year avg.)
Just like male homosexuals and men who want to be women, they both have the option to hide themselves in and amongst other men so they can instantly escape from their abusers.
However women have no such closet that allows them to escape their abusers.
Are you suggesting you are adding to the protection of women from their abusers by allowing male bodies in Prisons / Bathrooms etc?
Even if I was to allow myself to believe the trans propaganda that if a transwoman was not allowed into women’s prison or bathrooms this will result in his suicide, I would say if that is the case, so be it because suicide is self inflicted whereas Karen White’s victim were forced to be victims against their will – they could have been saved, their blood is on all men’s hand.
However if you are heartless enough to want to save a male bodied man’s life by risking more abuse and killing of women because him being allowed in women’s prisons / bathrooms etc, then how about saving even more men’s lives. I know a man who believes he is a great writer and has self harmed because of the lack of recognition by the cruel literary world.
Would you please get him on the Booker Prize shortlist because without this affirmation, he has told me he will commit suicide. Even if as a women, you were persuaded by my plea, I guarantee you that no men in the Labour Party or The Booker Prize Organisation will support your efforts.
For the record – Historically and currently many men have in fact self harmed and have committed suicide because the cruel literary world did not affirm their belief of being a great author. Also I am sure others know more men who would threaten suicide if there was a chance of getting on the Booker prize Shortlist. So can you please tell the men, they will be saving many more men’s lives then just my male friend this year.
But in the case of men’s pain and suicide because of their literary identity, suddenly saving men’s life does not justify the change of any rules and regulations in the mind of all these men.
Men only support TWAW dogma because MEN are not risking any thing, they are not risking more men being abused and killed (or their celebrity male friend missing out from the Booker Prize Shortlist to my unknown suicidal male friend) in this dogma. The whole Gender Identity Ideology is Misogynist.
The reason why there has been long history of male appropriation of the female sex is that women do not have the physical power to stop it, combined with women being raised to put men’s interest ahead of her own and all other women’s interest and safety.
This also explains why there is no modern movement for recognising trans racial identity ideology, any white man trying to advocate for such ideology would quickly learn what erasing means – not just “literal erasing”, they would learn, what is violence when it is not “literal violence”.
A male bodied man does not become the most oppressed class of person just because he feels he is a woman.
A women still can not stop this man from raping her bodily even if she did not identify as a woman and identified as a trans man!
Sad thing is I know, you know all this but just like most women who are not able to challenge the use of porn by the men around her, this is yet another case of Patriarchy in action.
Apartheid was able to survive into the full modern age because of the sheer weight and might of the white man’s power worldwide but even this power was not unlimited and therefore Apartheid had to fall eventually.
Just the same, there is a limit to the white woke men’s power and so the question is not, if the Gender Identity Ideology will fall but when.
But it seems the Labour Party is happy to let an extra lot of women and girls to be abused and killed in addition to the ones abused and killed in “normal” conditions just to affirm the man’s feeling that his is a woman and allowing such men additional easy access to the most venerable women in Prisons and all women and girls in bathrooms etc in this mean time.
Given that all people do not have unlimited energy and resources, can you tell me, given the actual number’s of female bodies being abused and killed everyday compared to male bodies, how many men are shouting kill the terf compared to how many men are shouting kill the misogynist in the Labour Party?
Would you like a mirror to reflect on this? or Even better, would you like a list of 10 misogynist men for you to pass over to the terf killers terf shouters male feminist, just to get them going.