Michael Biggs paper on the Tavistock

And this drug is not for prolonged use.

How long is prolonged, I wonder.

I saw tweets last week dismissing Michael Biggs for commenting on this ‘as a sociologist’ rather than clinician

And I bet they are the same people that hang off every nonsensical tweet of Sally Hines.

There are a lot of people involved in this who belong in jail.

In the advice from NICE. On the drug. All the advice is for adults. Children are not mentioned at all

I saw tweets last week dismissing Michael Biggs for commenting on this ‘as a sociologist’ rather than clinician. Shame these critics almost certainly won’t read this. Thanks for link redtoothbrush. I wonder what journal (looks like journal layout to me but could be wrong) will be publishing this.

Mrskeats

Juells

Side-effects
Common or very common
Asthenia; depression; dizziness; dysuria; gastrointestinal discomfort; gynaecomastia; haemorrhage; headache; hot flush; hyperhidrosis; hypersensitivity; joint disorders; menstrual cycle irregularities; mood altered; muscle complaints; nausea; oedema; ovarian and fallopian tube disorders; pain; painful sexual intercourse; paraesthesia; pelvic pain; sexual dysfunction; sleep disorders; vulvovaginal dryness

Uncommon
Alopecia; appetite abnormal; asthma exacerbated; breast pain; chills; constipation; diarrhoea; drowsiness; dry mouth; dyspnoea; embolism; gout; hypertension; muscle weakness; skin reactions; testicular disorders; tinnitus; vision disorders; vomiting; weight changes

Rare or very rare
Abnormal sensation in eye; chest pain; confusion; diabetes mellitus; difficulty standing; fever; flatulence; hypotension; influenza like illness; memory loss; musculoskeletal stiffness; nasopharyngitis; orthopnoea; osteoarthritis; taste altered; vertigo

Frequency not known
Angioedema; anxiety; bone disorder; malaise; QT interval prolongation

Side-effects, further information
During the initial stage increased production of testosterone may be associated with progression of prostate cancer. In susceptible patients this tumour ‘flare’ may cause spinal cord compression, ureteric obstruction or increased pain.

Every now and then I have a rant about consent and I'm at it again. How the fuck can pre-pubescent children give informed consent to never experiencing orgasm? Even assuming that they had been advised it was a risk?

ED & early death is more complex however. A lot of men with ED also have diabetes and increased risks of cardiovascular disease & other conditions.

Likewise depression & low libido are chicken & egg and so it isn't as straightforward as causation.

She {Polly Carmichael} even appeared on children’s television to disingenuously promote GnRHa.

In fact, the initial results showed predominantly negative outcomes

that was 'I am Leo'

both Carmichael and the BBC should feel ashamed, and should face serious consequences for their actions here

That episode seems to have been removed from the BBC website by the way, although it was there this time last year because I complained about it and was fobbed off

I like the phrasing of "organisations that campaign for the transgendering of children", that phrasing could do with being in more common use I reckon, make it clear that Mermaids et al are not in the business of supporting children, but actively imposing transgender on to them.

This is quite horrifying. Alarm bells should be ringing across the breadth of the medical profession.

Neurotrash - that article about side effects is available only in the UK, unfortunately. Could you give us an idea of the side effects listed?

Freedom of Information requests submitted at the end of 2018 revealed that neither GIDS nor University College London Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust (which provides endocrinology services) kept precise records of the number of children given GnRHa

jesus. the whole thing sounds chaotic

I'm pretty sure my GP surgery has a better handle on what drugs their patients are taking

Well known side effects of the drug:

bnf.nice.org.uk/drug/triptorelin.html

*By 2008, GIRES was more strident in criticizing British clinicians. One of its founders, Terry Reed, denounced them as “transphobic”:

They are hoping that during puberty the natural hormones themselves will act on the brain to ‘cure’ these trans teenagers. What we do know is what happens if you don’t offer hormone blockers. You are stuck with unwanted secondary sex characteristics in the long term and in the short term these teenagers end up suicidal. (Guardian, 14
August 2008)

Reed was clearly drawing on the experience of her own child, who transitioned two decades before. *

So basically more than one of the key drivers behind much of all this have been projecting and self affirming their own actions.

Thanks for posting this RTB

It’s astonishing

Thanks Red
And thanks to Michael Biggs, author of the paper.

This is the article we all have been waiting for
All the main players are there

I will use it for reference.

Children being experimented on with Tryptorhelin (puberty blocker) which were unlicenced and untested on children.
Inaccurate reporting of tabulated data in the study.

I can't string a sentence here I am so angry.

Sickening abuse, utterly sickening.

Lawyers, sharpen your pencils.

If this isn’t enough to get these experiments stopped then I give up.

Too many powerful people are invested for it to stop. 99% of the country could be against it but it'll still continue.

It's Eugenics, it'll stop the homosexuals, the autistics and the non-comformers from reproducing, eventually leaving a generation of clean human.

Mrskeats Has anyone from these services reached out to your stepdaughter or your/ her family? IF not , why not? IS your stepdaughter now fully aware of the consequences of her treatment?

MrsKeats

I also feel sick. All those children and families misled and harmed.

I mean, goddess knows I don't want to be talking about the future orgasms of children. It feels vile and prurient. But how can I not if pressure from adult activists and reckless doctors are taking them away?

It's like anything isnt it? If u cant talk about it then should you be doing it?

If parents or clinics cant discuss any and all side effects and consequences they they have no business dealing with the children.

I think.these children have a right to know. I'm.sure therenare age appropriate ways to discuss it with them.

What is sick, is not telling them and them finding out that there were treated as if a penis is nothing more than a lump.of flesh and a vagina is nothing more than a hole to stick a dick in.

Both are so.much more than that.

Finally. Fantastic and damming report.

I also think about all those academics who denounced the people working on these things - esp Michelle Moore and Heather Brunskell Evans.

I have said before on many threads that my stepdaughter of 16 years and 4 months has been on puberty blockers and is now on testosterone. So that’s no fertility and no sexual function now. It’s a scandal of epic proportions.

Have any parents or young people reacted publicly so far? What help is being given to them I wonder?

Having read this paper I am gobsmacked that the Tavistock is still allowed to treat children. It also shows Mermaids in a very poor light (confirms their role in promoting puberty blockers). The use of so called puberty blockers has to stop and stop now. Why aren't politicians up in arms about this? Why isn't this plastered on billboards and front pages? Dear God what a terrible society we live in where this is encouraged and praised.
I wish I was an ostrich so I could pretend this isn't happening but I can't.