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Labour hilarious again on Twitter

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Popchyk · 29/07/2019 15:02

Yaniv alert.

The co-chair of Open Labour, Emma Burnell, retweeted this.

twitter.com/hstanley_/status/1155367753538244610

"Hey @jack @Twitter You see how men are saying this? Can you reinstate all the women you banned for saying the exact same thing please?"

That tweet was in response to Maxime Bernier, French politician, referring in a Tweet to Yaniv as a man.

The trans cult were swift to act. Twice-removed indirect misgendering while ignoring the paedo alert.

twitter.com/OpenLabour/status/1155794528764403713

Labour make a long statement about awful injustices visited upon trans people.

And not a cheep about the working class immigrant women who are being harassed. Because it's been a long old time since Labour gave any kind of toss about those people.

Emma grovels of course. Made to repeat the mantra.

twitter.com/EmmaBurnell_/status/1155795161399664641

"I agreed this statement, the sentiments and content. I am again very sorry"

Random person makes Emma affirm the vow: "Are transwomen women, Emma?"

Emma: "Yes, of course".

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Lawlsie1976 · 30/07/2019 18:19

Well hello! How nice to find friends here. I'm loving mumsnet. Even tho I'm not a mum. But I care about children and safeguarding (I'm a former Relate counsellor and have had training in it) and I was incensed when I found out the Guardian had ignored that letter from GIDS at Tavistock. This is all going to blow sky high one day. Would be nice if it could be stopped before more kids' lives are harmed. I won't have it that this makes a bigot I just won't!

You don't give a kid who's self harming a razor. And you don't give someone with anorexia a diet sheet!

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 30/07/2019 17:52

Last I looked that thread was still running in its umpty-squillionth incarnation.

I used to love that thread.

BettyFilous · 30/07/2019 17:47

It was a link to AIBU there that led me to MN. I haven’t looked back.

ArnoldWhatshisknickers · 30/07/2019 17:44

Yeah, I used to post there too, left because of this very issue.

Not going back though, too many good posters have gone now.

Sometimes lurk on Lawlsie's Twitter so knew she was up to speed on all this.

BettyFilous · 30/07/2019 17:37

I thought I recognised Lawlsie’s name. I used to post on that forum. Just checked for the first time in years and can see the thread that’s causing all the grief. Maybe its time I dipped in again.

Lawlsie1976 · 30/07/2019 16:11

Hey there VicSynix

waves at Lawlsie I see you got bounced for just stating the truth on another forum we both frequent. Very McCarthyish...

Yes indeed. Nice to see am getting some support over there. (Forgive brief derailment of thread here please) The post they deleted was after my fury at the Guardian ignoring the letter from GIDS at the Tavistock warning about ROGD. My anger was over them centring wokey male feelz above children's safeguarding.

I'm so glad this place exists and these threads. They are keeping me sane when sometimes I feel as if I am going round the bend!

drspouse · 30/07/2019 15:58

What's wrong with Hillary Clinton now??!

VicSynix · 30/07/2019 12:50

waves at Lawlsie I see you got bounced for just stating the truth on another forum we both frequent. Very McCarthyish..

Lawlsie1976 · 30/07/2019 12:32

It does feel very McCarthyish doesn't it? I'm reminded of the fabulous line playwright and author Lilliam Hellman used when she faced the House Un-American Activities Committee in the 1950s:-

"I cannot and will not cut my conscience to fit this year’s fashions."

Seems apposite. We could do with a bit more of that!

Juells · 30/07/2019 11:39

Yes, the woke aren't garnering as many 'likes' as they expected. I think it's come as a bit of a shock to them, that they're not garnering the admiration that's their due.

Popchyk · 30/07/2019 10:50

All this Labour denouncing other Labour members for transphobia. It is just so time-consuming for a start. Loooong statements from committees about "sadness", "re-education", "so sorry for the distress caused". For crimes of wrongthink like retweeting Hillary Clinton or something.

While the working class struggles with poverty, diminishing workers' rights, poor housing, inadequate access to health services.

Labour doesn't even see them.

They don't even register with Labour.

The long statement about Emma's crimes of transphobia, with the working class immigrant women in the Yaniv case just erased completely from the case. Because their harassment doesn't matter, their working conditions don't matter.

Who exactly is getting erased? And why?

That does not look like the right side of history to me.

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Iminthewrongstory · 30/07/2019 09:09

And that woman is back up on twitter complaining about the pile on. I thinking combing through old tweets and twisting them into a negative narrative creepy (someone did something similar to JK Rowling based solely on who she followed and liked) leading, of course, to her being denounced.

littlbrowndog · 30/07/2019 08:34

Yeah I saw that woman who had gone through Emma’s twitter timeline to prove how transphobic Emma was and then posted them in a series of tweets to prove Emma’s transphobia

It was a very biazzare and nasty thing to do and must have taken hours

Iminthewrongstory · 30/07/2019 08:28

I'm newish to MN so keep wanting to 'like' posts but can't.

Interesting that there has been backlash/support for EB. Someone wrote a frightening thought police type series of tweets where they had gone through EB's twitter timeline and followings and reported her crimes such as following some GC feminists and (shock!) interacting with Hadley Freeman about Hillary Clinton. I went back a couple of hours later to see how that thread was progressing (early on someone had posted 'Stalin would be very proud of you.') but notice it is now private and their website unobtainable.

Juells · 30/07/2019 07:54

He said to her. So TWAW are women ?

He phrased it slightly differently to that, and added the name 'Emma', to really put her in her place. It was on the lines of "When did you stop beating your wife?", she was foolish to reply to him.

He had such a backlash to his bullying that he's deleted all his tweets to her, having claimed he definitely positively wasn't bullying, how could anyone think such a thing?

This is the kind of nonsense she's facing pbs.twimg.com/media/EAqrdkrXsAUFv4C?format=jpg&name=medium
The pomposity and self-righteousness would be hilarious if it weren't so frightening. Sad that women can be such traitors to their own sex, joining in the abuse.

Saw this image on the thread, which sums it up well.

Labour hilarious again on Twitter
littlbrowndog · 29/07/2019 23:09

Yeah what’s the point of lying down for bullies. You just feel bad. No point . You just end up feeling resentful and hating yourself

What you said Emma was right

Just tell the wokie beardies to do one as they don’t give no flying fucks about you
They are just being showie offies to their mates and hoping to get some power from this

Yuck

Popchyk · 29/07/2019 23:00

It's hard to go against the Woke Stasi, though.

Wouldn't write her off just yet.

Loads of people ridiculing that Open Labour statement and loads of people supporting Emma.

If Labour is going to survive (and yes I mean survive as a political party), it will take women like Emma finding the courage to stand up for women's rights in the face of the misogynistic beardy bros who clearly take such delight in slapping women down.

If all the women like Emma are hounded out of the party, then Labour will never survive. It will die a very painful death.

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barelove · 29/07/2019 22:55

I agree they were bullies and I have sympathy with any victim of bullying, but yeah, I wish she'd realise that to stand up to them would've won her support from so many more people than those she sold out to.

littlbrowndog · 29/07/2019 22:49

Yes barelove I would no5 have let a random on twitter bully me.

Or a political party.

But why do they want to bully a woman. It was really horrid to watch and think these are real ppl bullying a woman and affecting her life

But then you can’t ever appease these bullies enough.
Might as well stand up to it and crack on with what you really believe in
Otherwise you will just lie in bed at night thinking I collapsed to bullies and I don’t feel better for it

barelove · 29/07/2019 22:41

I don't agree that she was 'forced' to apologise or to say TWAW. She chose to apologise and say that idiotic thing because she prioritises her position over women's rights.

WhereAreWeNow · 29/07/2019 22:32

So who exactly are Open Labour? I'm a Labour member and hadn't heard of them until today. I had heard of EB though. Very disappointing to see her (forced to?) apologise and repeat the TWAW mantra.

littlbrowndog · 29/07/2019 21:15

I still can’t get ove4 why she said sorry then that guy made her repeat the mantra TWAW.

Yuck that guy. How creepy, makes my skin crawl how he said it to her

He said to her. So TWAW are women ?

She said yes TWAW

Popchyk · 29/07/2019 21:04

Emma getting loads of support on Twitter.

twitter.com/EmmaBurnell_/status/1155795161399664641

Nice to see.

I hope Emma takes time to reflect.

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Lawlsie1976 · 29/07/2019 18:33

D'OH!!!! I just missed a trick here didn't I? I can identify as a mum can't I? If I feel like one, then I am one! I mean that's how it goes these days, right?

Lawlsie1976 · 29/07/2019 18:28

Deeply disappointed that Emma felt the need to apologise. Maybe she was bullied into it or felt she had no choice. So this Open Labour lot are just as bad as the other lot? They're all into the transwomen are women meme aren't they?

I would say vote LibDem but Jo Swinson buys into this crap too. I'm wondering if it's age related? Swinson is only 39. Emma Burnell is presumably quite young too? (I'm 63, anyone under 50 is young to me!)

It's a Third Wave thing isn't it? The new feminism that centres men. That's how it seems to me anyways. I'm not a mum (though I am a very hands-on interfering old auntie). I'm immensely grateful to mumsnet for somewhere sane to talk about this! It's simply not possible on Twitter.

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