Thanks for confirming your brand of feminism Meghan!

I'm not disappointed in Meghan Markle as I never expected anything from her in the first place. Vogue, on the other hand, is lost in a metropolitan wokeland - now that I do find depressing.

I need no lessons in morality, ethics or anything else from any of these people. I am more intelligent and competent than all of them combined. And so are most of the British people, I believe.
If they want to stay where they are they should emulate the queen. I don’t like her either but at least she doesn’t pretend she’s qualified to form opinion.

Not sure how anyone can be 'disappointed' by this. Meghan is whatever the 'feminist' equivalent of the 'champagne socialist' is. All fashionable causes, feel-good virtue signalling and nothing that would in any way impact on her glamorous lifestyle. Although she's supported by the British taxpayer, she's much more interested in appealing to the American Instagram wokerati.

This.

Yes, and now we have Haz lecturing us on racism, something he never seemed to give a damn about until he married a mixed-race woman.

So it's not enough for them to live lives of great privilege at the taxpayer's expense. They get to preach to us too. How nice.

The queen doesn’t feel compelled to tell people what to think or what they should care about. Unfortunately all the younger royals, from Charles downwards, seem to believe we should be interested in their silly opinions. The grounds for that belief are unclear. They have achieved nothing, have no intellect to speak of, no qualifications to be opinion formers. They need to keep their traps shut, because public patience is starting to wear a little thin, I think.

Not sure how anyone can be 'disappointed' by this. Meghan is whatever the 'feminist' equivalent of the 'champagne socialist' is. All fashionable causes, feel-good virtue signalling and nothing that would in any way impact on her glamorous lifestyle. Although she's supported by the British taxpayer, she's much more interested in appealing to the American Instagram wokerati.

And the irony of her 'feminism' is that none of these women - not Jane Fonda, not Michelle Obama, not Christy Turlington - would have even taken her calss were it not for the highly privileged man she married.

This B List actor has had 2 million of taxpayer's money spent on her new home renovations and now has the cheek to tell the plebs how they should behave. Really she wanted a Vogue cover for herself but this was a covert way of getting round it. As always celebs virtue signalling get up everyone's noses. The Queen does a good job but after her death there needs to be referendum about whether the ever proliferating Windsor family should be allowed to continue.

Feminism does now seem to mean something quite different from what it meant when I was first a feminist, in 1972, aged 16 after reading The Female Eunuch. When I was at college we'd have been thrilled to have Germaine Greer come and speak to us. I can't imagine anyone would have objected.

Now she's no-platformed for reasons I cannot understand. When we had No Platform in the mid to late 70s it was specifically stated it was against fascists and racists. Mainly the National Front, the equivalent then of the British National Party. The idea it would ever be used to silence a left-of-centre pioneer feminist who was to many of us a heroine is beyond bizarre.

As for Vogue... I have very little interest in fashion but I adored the film The September Issue and found it quite compelling viewing. That it managed to get an audience beyond fashion fans is testimony to how interesting it was. I don't find the idea of Meghan Murphy's guest editorship remotely as interesting. It's good PR for the mag but I imagine it isn't selling in anything like the numbers it did in 2009 when The September Issue came out. If you haven't seen it, I really do recommend it.

Ooh Lipstick Alley

I haven't felt so uplifted since I found Gender trender.

Mockers

Second, this list will have been written by a PR person employed to make their client look good.

Have you read any of the copy? I'm willing to bet that it wasn't written by a professional.

I doubt Harry really understands about Mermaids. When I heard about them they seemed OK on first glance - then I read a lot more and was horrified!

Didn't she and Harry support Mermaids? So we kind of already knew.

I really don’t care about Vogue ( never bought one they’re ridiculously expensive and not relevant to my life ) or a member of the royal family, but as a kiwi I am laughing out loud at Ardern’s inclusion... not worth getting worked up about tbh

I don't think her list is very interesting, but honestly, most people aren't interesting. They are generally nice enough anyway.

All mainstream 'feminism' that appears in magazines like Vogue is silly liberal 'feminism' that centres the rights of penises in everything (such as porn, prostitution and transgenderism). It would be a great relief if they could finally stop appropriating the word feminism and use menzism or something that suits them better like that. Men's rights activism would suit them better since that is now what they are fighting for, even if most of them haven't yet figured that out.

Did you call someone a man? Arabella
Not allowed apparently

Women are oppressed because of their sex, and I think that the inclusion of someone born male in a list of inspirational women is an insult to all those born female.

@MNHQ

Can someone please explain how I broke talk guidelines?

I thought this was about Meghan Murphy! Disappointed to learn it’s about the royal one

Same here!

Can we please just get rid of the whole royal family. I do not care what these people think. I am sick of being told by them what I should think, care about and be interested in. Can they all just shut the fuck up and fuck the fuck off now please.

If only...

Sorry Hopping, didn’t make myself clear

I know you were completely pleasant about the pissing duchess of Sussex (got it right this time!)

Bernard my crime was to use the word “man”
I did not and would not say anything nasty about MM

I am in full-on OFFS mode after watching Bonnie Greer on the news.

Apparently, dear old Megs spent her pregnancy 'busy editing a magazine.'

Can we sort this out?

First, a 'guest editor' is not an editor. They do not edit anything. The most they do is write a list of suggestions for the (real) editor.

Second, this list will have been written by a PR person employed to make their client look good.

Royals. They travel around a bit and say hello to some people. That's it.

I'm another who thought this was a Meghan Murphy thread.

I really don't care about the views of minor royalty, or major royalty for that matter. I've never understood the fascination with such people.

Thanks for posting the Lipstick Alley link, the comments give me hope that the whole US hasn't swallowed the Kool Aid

The women of Lipstick Alley are fierce and tolerate no shite. I have been a fan in a lurking kind of way for a long time. Sometimes I think it is easy to forget that there are many groups who have been opposing this crap and think it is only you. It's nice to be reminded that isn't the case.

The only certainty is that all MM threads are deleted.