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"Self care shouldn't be gendered" - top surgery scars

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NeurotrashWarrior · 26/07/2019 20:37

I find this immensely chilling. I hadn't thought of non binary like this before.

On the one hand creating a child like but adult body ( I feel sick)

And on the other hand exulting in the scars; self harm as self care...

All types of awfulness dressed up as glamour and put on Instagram.

I wonder if this would be discussed in parliament re self image?

www.refinery29.com/en-us/2019/05/232331/lachlan-watson-top-surgery-scar-interview

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OrchidInTheSun · 26/07/2019 21:22

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newtlover · 26/07/2019 21:18

'The fact that a brand like Unilever would care as much as to be that representation for someone and to lend me that platform is surreal. '
the naivety of this remark is striking, and sad.
I so, so hope that these surgeons, doctors and pharma companies get sued into penury. Maybe some will see it coming now and desist.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 26/07/2019 21:10

I feel like saying - well doh obvs.

I also feel they're linking it to other things; in that adjusting the whole body to be un gendered is part of the self care.

Just all the language around the mastectomy.

I'm reminded of the breast book aimed at young teens and the inclusion of the trans man and their mastectomy. This feels even starker some how.

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littlbrowndog · 26/07/2019 21:07

So she was a lesbian then a transgender man and now a something binary.

By the age of 18.

And has a had a double mastectomy

The doctors who did this to,that young girl Ffs.

Top surgery. It’s a double mastectomy

CrackOn · 26/07/2019 21:05

Isn't self-care stuff like brushing your teeth and washing? Do they mean like whether you use a pink bottle of shower gel or a blue bottle?

Yeah, I think so. In the article Watson says that as a transman they felt they had to conform to male stereotypes (not washing, not moisturising etc.) but then realised that men can do these things to, and is now promoting the idea that self care isn't, or shouldn't be, gendered. Which I agree with tbh.

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NeurotrashWarrior · 26/07/2019 21:04

I have no idea jellylegs

It was the photos that chilled me jellyslice. She looks so child like and the talk about scars reminded me of self harm sites and Instagram obviously. And effectively removing your breasts is a form of self harm.

I suddenly saw it from a very different perspective where before NB seemed tamer in comparison.

I agree the stuff going on in their head is very mixed; also though they've changed their mind several times. What if they suddenly wish to have a baby; their ability to breast feed is gone.

I also worry about the glamorising of this - almost like page 3 but the total opposite...

Probably extra bothered personally as I'm breastfeeding as I type.

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Jellylegsni · 26/07/2019 20:56

I don't understand what is meant by "self-care" and it being gendered. Isn't self-care stuff like brushing your teeth and washing? Do they mean like whether you use a pink bottle of shower gel or a blue bottle?

JellySlice · 26/07/2019 20:50

There are, I think, two different things going on in this person's head.

  1. the 'non-binary' thing of not having to restrict yourself to the gendered behaviour/hygiene practices/clothing choices/cosmetics/interests stereotypically associated with masculine or feminine traits. No, that doesn't make you non-binary. It makes you an individual. A female individual.

  2. the fixation with scars. No different to any other body-modification techniques. That tattooist who was imprisoned for removing the ears from a consenting adult, at that adult's request, was doing the same thing as the surgeon who removed Watson's breasts.

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