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may my mistress catching me in bed with her daughter

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DuploTower · 26/07/2019 14:51

I was just in the kids section in a bookshop and there was a collection of poems 'to live by', (presumably older kids). I was always quite fond of Roger McGough, but this really bothered me... has feminism turned me into a sour faced bore?

So it's true that even the lovely men want to fuck fuck the daughter of the person they're cheating on their wife with?

I'm being ridiculous arnt I? But I don't want either my son or daughter to read this...

I'm fucking Mary Whitehouse...

Tell me to get a grip?

"Or when I'm 104
and banned from the Cavern
may my mistress
catching me in bed with her daughter
and fearing for her son
cut me up into little pieces
and throw away every piece but one "

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SalitaeDiscesa · 27/07/2019 08:38

It's nonsense, like my uncle saying his preferred way to go would be to get shot in the back of the head by a jealous husband at 90. Taking the piss out of himself.

BillywilliamV · 27/07/2019 08:30

It’s a nonsense poem...my DH wants to die at age 99 because his mistress knocks the throttle on the private jet he is piloting while giving him a BJ. Should I be outraged by the fact that this poor woman will obviously die too?

loopsdefruit · 27/07/2019 08:29

I mean he's saying he DOES want an 'exciting' death, rather than a boring old person death when you just get weak and frail and die in a bed. He doesn't actually want any of those things to happen but he does want the end of his life to be quick and unexpected and as a result of living if that makes sense.

It's a silly poem with crazy examples. It was one of my favourites when I was younger from a book of the nation's favourite poems. My other favourites from that book were Chocolate Cake and The Lady of Shallot.

Bespin · 27/07/2019 08:27

but it does make a really good title for a thread that will get people to click on it don't it.

Bespin · 27/07/2019 08:25

yep it's a poem about not wanting to have those things happen. but I suppose you can take it out of context and see it as the opersite.

Nuffaluff · 27/07/2019 08:24

The poem is called ‘How to die a young man’s death’.
Here’s the previous verse:

Or when I’m 91
with silver hair
and sitting in a barber’s chair
may rival gangsters
with hamfisted tommyguns
burst in and give me a short back and insides

I don’t think Roger McGough has secret connections to the mafia.
It doesn’t say how old his mistress is in the poem. She could well be a similar age to him, making the daughter in her 70s or 80s.
I would not have a problem with my kids reading that.

deydododatdodontdeydo · 27/07/2019 08:22

Thanks Bespin, so in context he's saying he doesn't want that to happen. Makes more sense now.

deydododatdodontdeydo · 27/07/2019 08:19

Nobody's concerned about the promotion of domestic violence? She's cutting him up into little pieces.
Just like the mistress line, it's fiction, it's a poem.

Bespin · 27/07/2019 08:17

just for a bit of context for this nonsense poem.

Let Me Die a Youngman’s Death

Let me die a youngman’s death
not a clean and inbetween
the sheets holywater death
not a famous-last-words
peaceful out of breath death

When I’m 73
and in constant good tumour
may I be mown down at dawn
by a bright red sports car
on my way home
from an allnight party

Or when I’m 91
with silver hair
and sitting in a barber’s chair
may rival gangsters
with hamfisted tommyguns burst in
and give me a short back and insides

Or when I’m 104
and banned from the Cavern
may my mistress
catching me in bed with her daughter
and fearing for her son
cut me up into little pieces
and throw away every piece but one

Let me die a youngman’s death
not a free from sin tiptoe in
candle wax and waning death
not a curtains drawn by angels borne
‘what a nice way to go’ death

dancingcamper · 27/07/2019 08:10

And even more sadly I probably wouldn't have noticed how shocking a line that really is without you pointing it out.

I am as culturally conditioned as anyone else, so otherwise dull men seem more interesting if they have a mistress. I am thinking of the effect John Major's affair with Edwina Currie had on his reputation, or Hugh Grant getting arrested when with Divine Brown.

dancingcamper · 27/07/2019 08:04

Ew.

It's that thing of an old man having a mistress being a bit edgy and to seduce the daughter even more so.

He probably admires Woody Allen.

Sadly it is just everyday misogyny in which women are sex objects in his imagination.

TriptychDebbie · 26/07/2019 18:15

I think it's code for prat @nauticant

nauticant · 26/07/2019 17:02

One thing I've noticed from twitter spats is how often progressive beardy blokes with dodgy misogynistic views have the word "poet" in their bio.

SofaSoConfused · 26/07/2019 15:19

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barelove · 26/07/2019 15:15

A man so deluded he thinks that at 104 he'll not only have a mistress (f*ck off) but that her daughter will want to have sex with him 🤣

Poems 'to live by'? Poems to learn about male entitlement from more like.

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