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Conversion therapy: Prohibition

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hoteltango · 24/07/2019 20:52

I know very little about this, but Kathleen Stock retweeted this:

twitter.com/STILLTish/status/1153995960072253440

Private Members bill by Geraint Davies MP. Has had its first reading.

"Conversion therapy: Prohibition

(1) It shall be an offence for any person to practice, or to offer to practice conversion therapy.

(2) In this Act, 'conversion therapy' is any form of therapy which demonstrates an assumption that any sexual orientation or gender identity is inherently preferable to any other and attempts to--
(a) change a person's sexual orientation or gender identity, or
(b) suppress a person's expression of sexual orientation or gender identity.

(3) A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable to a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale."

Wiser minds than mine could articulate better than I can why this doesn't make sense. All I can think of so far is a parent of a transing teen (or younger) opting for watchful waiting - would that be classed as "suppressing" as in (b)?

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Goosefoot · 24/07/2019 21:15

I am not convinced its a good idea to make laws about this at all. "Conversion therapy" could mean all kinds of things, and the medical opinion on it isn't set in stone, who knows what new things might be learned in the future or what unusual circumstances might apply to an individual? It seems over-reaching.

FloralBunting · 24/07/2019 21:11

This makes me so angry, as someone went through 'gay conversion therapy'.

Gay conversion therapy involves various means, some reasonably benign, many overtly abusive, to convince a person that their demonstrable sexual and romantic orientation to members of their own sex isn't right or real, and that actually they are differently oriented.

The opposite of this is no intervention whatsoever except to love, and accept someone as oriented homosexually, and maybe show them some role models, which is why representation is so important.

What the Genderists are pressing for in terms of treating 'gender ID' is actually exactly the interventionist abuse that 'gay conversion therapy' involves, except it's perhaps more heinous, if you can credit that, because while gay conversion therapy can involve intense ritual and rape, Genderists think irreversible body modification and sterility is the answer to gender issues, and think that helping people be comfortable with their own bodies is conversion therapy.

So this legislation is attempting to say that conversion therapy is both wrong, and also right and appropriate. So it's damaging, dangerous rubbish. Which makes me even crosser because I would like to see actually conversion therapy disappear.

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