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JY on Irish Radio now

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RaveOnThisCrazyFeeling · 22/07/2019 21:17

Any Irish feminists who might be interested... Classic hits replay of the Niall Boylan show from today. JY talking about her case.

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merrymouse · 23/07/2019 14:52

I feel really bad for Yaniv. From the interviews, the tweets, etc, they is clearly very unwell.

I think Yaniv's mental state is almost irrelevant.

People like Yaniv will always exist.

The problem is that Canadian law can be used as a weapon by Yaniv.

SittingAround1 · 23/07/2019 13:53

Just listened to the interview on YouTube.
He definitely says women don't have the right to say no.
Those poor women, especially the ones who've lost their jobs and businesses.

At one point I'm sure he says something about how they discriminated because of his race (not meaning ethnicity but being a transwoman) mixing everything up to justify his cause.

GirlDownUnder · 23/07/2019 13:53

Sorry! Hear not here Blush

morningtoncrescent62 · 23/07/2019 13:52

I don't feel sorry for JY. But I do think that they're a sick individual who haven't been helped in the least by the TRA community 'affirming' their behaviour and cheering them on from the sidelines, or by a legal system that refuses to enforce boundaries. They're a bit like a monstrous toddler to whom no-one says "no" - allowed to become more and more bullying, more and more convinced the world revolves around them, more and more convinced that their sick fantasies are true, and more and more deeply embedded in their victim status which justifies anything. JY is certainly responsible for their own nasty, manipulative, abusive and spiteful actions. But the backstage cast, the individuals, groups and organisations who like to think they've been 'kind' and 'inclusive', have done JY no favours at all.

GirlDownUnder · 23/07/2019 13:52

Mole nope not Louise, another person has seen all the noise around JY since the publication ban, and felt brave enough to tell her story. I'm wondering how many others we'll here from.

Her name is Jessica (people think her name was JYs inspiration for JY to copy).
She was 14 when he first contacted her on ask.fm and it got pretty unpleasant very quickly.
Have a look at the following link, where you'll see more of what she's said, but her latest tweet looks like something new is going to break soon.
"Also there is a big story coming out in the morning, it's gonna expose JY even way more. #waxmyballs will become #elmothepedo"

mobile.twitter.com/HyperJesserz/with_replies

CumannNamBan · 23/07/2019 13:35

Link to official station podcast of the interview www.classichits.ie/podcasts/niall-boylan/episode/interview-with-jessica-yaniv/

MoleSmokes · 23/07/2019 12:55

BuzzShitbagBobbly that audio is SERIOUSLY disturbing! I wonder if it was sent to one of the girls from the teen band fan club that JY was harassing before the whole, "I'm a LADY!" thing kicked off? The girl who went public is called Louise but maybe there is a "Jessica" too?

l-ou-ise.com/breaking-silence

Deadringer · 23/07/2019 11:54

there are no winners here true but there are a lot of losers, women who are losing their livelihoods for a start.

FlapsMagazine · 23/07/2019 09:38

Wandering through all the related threads and there's screenshots from a 15 year old who had very inappropriate contact from Yaniv. Her name? Jessica, which he would then go on to adopt. Not too dissimilar to the bloke who attacked Julie Bundle taking a high profile feminist's name. It's almost like there's some creepy agenda going on here folks.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 23/07/2019 08:25

I'm a shitbag, what can I say?

GirlDownUnder · 23/07/2019 08:08

Buzz I'm not clicking that link because I've a very strong suspicion I'll hear Elmo feat. JY and I puked a little in my mouth last time!

If you're trying to get me to do that again, you'll have (re)earnt your tag of shitbag Grin

DanaPhoenix · 23/07/2019 08:07

Er I’ve heard that audio Buzz just going to say it is seriously creepy... this from a horror movie fan.

That poor young girl. It’s rapey, stalkerish and just ugh. Shudder.

pachyderm · 23/07/2019 07:58

I'm delighted because Irish TRAs and their fans have fought so hard to suppress debate and discussion on this. They love their silly vexatious litigations too and Yaniv's case is the logical conclusion of this insanity.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 23/07/2019 07:42

While we're talking about JY's audio guest appearances, how about some babyvoice sex chat?

twitter.com/stillgray/status/1153473122575585280

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 23/07/2019 07:24

JY's pure arrogance and life in their weird little bubble drove him to think he would just be accepted without exception.

He had nothing. It was beautiful!

As of this morning the youtube link above ( in case you missed it)

4,516 views
223 likes
0 dislikes

PS> There are many services where you can download videos for free, just in case this one gets taken down. Y2Mate is one: y2mate.com/youtube/lTr03b_L30s

Pudner · 23/07/2019 06:36

I have to say I despise Niall Boylan but he played a blinder on this one.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 23/07/2019 06:31

Thanks so much for the transcript, miri1985. It was an ace interview. JY put up a stellar performance if showing listeners that the emperor has no clothes was the objective.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 23/07/2019 06:24

I feel really bad for Yaniv. From the interviews, the tweets, etc, they is clearly very unwell.

Now I don't. We are all too familiar with predators who have MH diagnoses and/or PDs. This doesn't excuse them. I would be surprised if Mick Philpot, mentioned above, doesn't have identifiable personality disorders. So what?

My sympathy is all with the victims.

DonkeySkin · 23/07/2019 05:40

I think feeling sorry for people like JY is what got us all into this mess in the first place.

Great post, AnotherAdultHumanFemale.

I wish I could c+p it into every comments section of every article that goes on about 'poor, vulnerable trans women'. Women are having our compassion used against us by manipulative, narcissistic men who have a chilling inability to empathise with us, while the world commands us to 'be kind' to these men.

And as you point out, it's not just Yaniv. It's the entire movement. Trans activists demand endless sympathy from women while displaying a sociopathic disregard for women's safety and wellbeing.

DanaPhoenix · 23/07/2019 03:32

Should read NO upper monetary limit obviously

DanaPhoenix · 23/07/2019 03:31

Oh WeirdWoman there is absolutely nothing wrong with feeling empathy it's a natural human emotion (well for most of us) you should be aware though that those that display empathy are the most likely to be targeted by sociopaths, narcissists and other assorted abusers.... I've learned that through experience, I hope you never have to.

JY is revelling in all the attention. What is it two radio interviews so far since the ban was lifted? I was listening to a true crime podcast the other day about Mick Philpott (whose horrific crimes are no doubt familiar to those in the UK) what struck me was the similarity in seeking media attention even when it's negative. Such narcissism....
Surely a simple media release statement and a retreat from social media would be a typical response in this situation? I wonder why they haven't taken this route?

It's a shame that the videos of the hearing have to be taken so discreetly. Because I can guarantee that if JY's face was clearly visible their inability to hide their "duper's delight" would be plainly evident.
JY did actually show this at one point in a video where the member clarifies that there is upper limit to monetary compensation.... that coquettish giggle JY responds with? Duper's Delight writ large.

AnotherAdultHumanFemale · 23/07/2019 02:25

I think feeling sorry for people like JY is what got us all into this mess in the first place.

I don't see vulnerability at all, I see pure manipulation. Manipulators use our empathy against us and that's why this person has managed to get so far - nobody was willing to call out their shocking, inappropriate, predatory behaviour for fear of being called names or 'upsetting' them. Same with all the other TRAs - they use women's empathy against us to get access to our spaces because we feel sorry for them after they've played the victim. Then they turn around, try to claim they are women whilst trying to rename us as a subcategory of women, try to make it illegal for us to describe our bodies, our biology, try to get laws changed which benefit them and directly harm us, steal out scholarships, funding and on and on. We have to be aware of manipulators and predators trying to use the empathy of others for their own gain.

This person probably has a disorder like NPD causing delusions of grandeur, low to no empathy, manipulative behaviour etc. Lots of people have mental health problems, it doesn't excuse such atrocious behaviour.

GirlDownUnder · 23/07/2019 01:26

WeirdWoman you don’t need a hard hat with me, cos I do get where you’re coming from, because if you’re new to JY this perceived pile on could look awful.

JY has got away with a lot for a very long time. He was protected by Twitter and Ogre, who also validated them, and both fed the delusion that JY could act with impunity.

Before I started to watch JY (because of the waxing cases), and back track on their history I would sometimes feel a twinge of pity because JY is very good at appearing vulnerable. That coupled with female socialisation is probably why so many young girls even entertained the conversations they did with JY.

I’m not sure how much you’ve read about JY but when I need reminding of what kind of predator is being given a platform to abuse women, I read these.

mirandayardley.com/en/jonathan-yaniv-is-a-predator/

JY on Irish Radio now
Deadringer · 23/07/2019 00:59

Yes owl jy was remarkably inarticulate, they can hardly string a sentence together, unbelievable really that they have managed to get their case so far.

WeirdWoman · 23/07/2019 00:59

dons hard hat

I feel really bad for Yaniv. From the interviews, the tweets, etc, they is clearly very unwell.

I used to think they was a troll, but it’s clear that they is actually quite ill.

Even worse, it doesn’t seem that anyone is going to step in and help Yaniv. Yaniv’s supporters will support Yaniv no matter what.

There are no winners here.