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Guardian Article - Gender is not for others to decide

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Awning10 · 22/07/2019 17:28

www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/20/our-gender-is-not-for-others-to-decide-a-bill-for-trans-people-to-self-identify-is-a-good-start

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TurboTeddy · 22/07/2019 20:16

That headline! That photograph!
Are we sure the Guardian aren't just trolling now?

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 22/07/2019 19:33

One of the many infuriating and illogical aspects of the ideology is that no one can tell anyone what their gender identity is unless those people are middle aged women. Then we're told we're "cis". Another is the insistence that everyone has a gender identity.

The frothing rage when many of us gender critical women announced that we were #genderfree showed the nonsense up for what it is.

FFSFFSFFS · 22/07/2019 19:32

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jul/22/im-surviving-transphobia-when-id-rather-just-play-footy

Simona totes doesn't stand out in her footy match - good on ya Simona bet women totally feel safe playing footy against you.

What possible physical advantage could you have? What possible danger could your physical form pose to women who want to play the traditionally male dominated sport of football.

Makes my blood boil.

WrathofStrawberryWhittleKlop · 22/07/2019 19:21

Simona Castricum is a transgendered women.
Obvious really

Chocalatecappuccino · 22/07/2019 18:55

So it's not for others to decide gender but they can decide women's gender? They can force 'cis' on us? They can say sex doesn't matter and is a social construct? So hypocritical!!! This massively gives me the rage. Fuck. That.

Goosefoot · 22/07/2019 18:53

And they've disabled the like function as well

They usually only leave that on for a little while I think. But they didn't leave it open for long.

TurboTeddy · 22/07/2019 18:53

Comments closed now..... how very fucking Guardian!

TurboTeddy · 22/07/2019 18:52

I think the title of then article is misleading, I've never thought I should be able to decide another's gender, I reject the concept for myself but if others want to embrace it then they can fill their boots. I don't however expect to be labelled a bigot for acknowledging biological sex or for failing to correctly recognise your gender as you would like me to. And I definitely don't think creating a legal fiction is a rational or logical move.

Berthatydfil · 22/07/2019 18:47

Comments are closed now

truthisarevolutionaryact · 22/07/2019 18:37

And they've disabled the like function as well Grin. So typically controlling the agenda Guardian.

The comments were very sceptical.

Goosefoot · 22/07/2019 18:35

Yes. I really think the narrative on this is changing somewhat. It looks a lot different than it did 5 years ago.

OvaHere · 22/07/2019 18:23

The comments in the main aren't really buying it either. Lots of discussion about sex and the reality of DSDs.

Apocalyptichorsewoman · 22/07/2019 18:14

I know - I wasn't expecting that!

Goosefoot · 22/07/2019 18:07

Gosh, it had open comments!

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