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I'm not convinced that feminism has helped the women it should have?

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soapona · 22/07/2019 13:18

I think on these discussion boards and on my Facebook I see women. They don't insist on marriage so they partner remains married to the ex for years and year, they live together and I wonder what will happen should the man die. I also see women with no security living with men with no intentions of marrying and having children. Women moving in with men too soon. In the days gone by women would and could have insisted on commitment. So now the position for women is worse hanging round waiting for a proposal.

I know they don't have to I'm fairly wealthy and a single parent so have choices and always have. I don't have a lot to gain from marriage.

I'm not sure things have got better for women we are expected to do a lot now two incomes are the usual for a mortgage instead of one in the olden days . So it's a given women work, do the most childcare do we honestly think these thing will change when the power imbalance is there from the beginning?

Also the women marrying "beneath themselves", that's not the correct term but a man earning less and not likely to come into a decent inheritance. What is the point in getting married there if you're a women? Perhaps if the woman is wealthy to avoid inheritance tax for her children but other than that I don't know?

So would woman not be happier marrying the same or above and insisting on marriage early on, like it was a given in days gone by?

Surely Women are now in very risky positions due to this living together in a man's property. I see much more domestic abuse these days. I believe the stats are much higher with non married couples. Surely living together unmarried has been caused by equality and feminism and the very people feminists has been trying to help they've hindered.

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BertrandRussell · 22/07/2019 13:35

It is perfectly possible to protect yourself financially without being married.
I don’t think it is being a feminist that makes women fail to do so, or have children with men who do not make good fathers.

IWannaSeeHowItEnds · 22/07/2019 13:34

I see what you are getting at. Women have no financial protection if they have children and give up work but are not married. This is sold to us as choice but in reality it screws over a lot of women. We are still in a position where, upon separation women keep the kids (and all the work and restrictions that entails) and men keep the money ( and associated freedom).

soapona · 22/07/2019 13:33

Society is driving women in a less secure route.

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soapona · 22/07/2019 13:31

@CuriousaboutSamphire Good point. Although society has moved in a way where women are expected to co habit and we're are now going toward the norm of having children before marriage too. This is in my opinion driven by men.

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 22/07/2019 13:28

Beg pardon?

You mean that women are no longer being given to men who are in a position to 'keep' them but are making free choices badly, and so we should feminist better?

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