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Transgender sex offender in womens prison in Ireland

86 replies

miri1985 · 22/07/2019 04:53

www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/sex-offender-undergoing-male-female-16623261.amp?__twitter_impression=true

I know people liked to claim that the Irish system was set up so this wouldn't happen but it was clear this was only a matter of time. Hope this wakes a few people up about the self ID system here.

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CumannNamBan · 22/07/2019 16:34

Ahh messed up the link www.oireachtas.ie/en/members/tds/

CumannNamBan · 22/07/2019 16:32

I'd say Once it is worth writing to any politicians, even local ones. This is one way to feed back to the parties that the general public does not support this.

You can find your TD here www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/sex-offender-undergoing-male-female-16623261

Your local city or county councillors will be listed on those councils websites.

pachyderm · 22/07/2019 14:52

Most women in prison are in for nonviolent offences. They have a huge rate of addiction and mental health issues, and histories of childhood abuse, domestic violence and prostitution. They are one of the most genuinely vulnerable groups of people in society. I am beyond sickened at this. Yes, TRAs have been infiltrating the IPRT for years - Peter Dunne of TELI and TENI (not sure but I suspect another Stephen Whittle) on the case.

Fuck them, just fuck them.

Juells · 22/07/2019 14:21

Lordamighty
How long before he invokes human rights legislation to demand to be able to mix freely with the other female prisoners without extra supervision? He has got away with it so far so why not carry on pushing & pushing until he gets what he really wants?

I'd like to see him mixing freely with the Scissor Sisters, but I think they've been released. 😂

Juells · 22/07/2019 14:11

When you consider how many perverts target vulnerable women to gain access to their children, where is the sense in allowing this man to share a space with women? Just imagine how lovely and nice and victimised he'll probably present as. 😡

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 22/07/2019 13:59

Miri do you know who would be the proper people to contact about this? I'm guessing not local councillors?

notatwork · 22/07/2019 13:48

Putting a person who repeatedly sexually assaulted a child into a violent prison where most inmates identify as Mothers is likely to end in violence TBF if they don't put some protection in place.

Juells · 22/07/2019 13:29

Sounds to me like he'd need protection from the female prisoners. It's the prison with the highest number of assaults on staff.
www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/dochas-centre-most-dangerous-irish-13344315
It houses some very violent murderers.

MotherForkinShirtBalls · 22/07/2019 12:55

I've posted about this over in craicnet too..

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/craicnet/3644760-Sex-offender-being-housed-in-the-Dochas-womens-prison

CumannNamBan · 22/07/2019 12:50

Thanks for that information, Dublin Crone.

The Irish Penal Reform Trust have been pushing for male offenders to be allowed in female prisons for a while. Looks like they got their wish www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/irish-prison-service-slammed-not-12678191.amp

DublinCrone · 22/07/2019 12:33

I read the original Sunday World article and it said a judge in the Dundalk circuit court ordered the prisoner to be remanded in the women's prison last Monday (July 15)
The person has 10 convictions of sexual assault on a male child over a period of three years and one conviction for cruelty.
The article also claimed and that the two prison guards are for the protection of the transgender prisoner, to protect them from the women.

Apols for the stilted tone - at home with kids and multi tasking badly.

Transgender sex offender in womens prison in Ireland
MotherForkinShirtBalls · 22/07/2019 11:52

Popchyk, in Ireland sex offenders are usually not named to protect the identity of their victims. The option to waive anonymity is usually victim's, but there was a recent case where the offender tried to prevent the victim allowing them both to be named. I'll see if I can dig it out.

JackyHolyoake · 22/07/2019 10:45

I wonder how the women officers feel having to 'guard' this man who is a serial sex offender to protect the women prisoners from him?

He must be making their working life hell.

FlapsMagazine · 22/07/2019 10:45

Anybody have any more details?

I must say I'm local, but haven't heard anything about that.

MrsSnippyPants · 22/07/2019 10:37

Just reading that boards.ie thread and came across this:

"Same is going on here up North with a middle aged man demanding to be let dress up in his tutu and do ballet lessons with little girls. And a lot more. Childrens ballet class teacher sued & usual hell breaking out. Its not just the insurance industry who are at fault. As one poster has said -when is common sense and basic human dignity and cop on going to click in"

Anybody have any more details?

FormerMediocreMale · 22/07/2019 10:27

So because one of the "sacred" is at risk in a mens prison they move them so that a whole prison full of women are at risk.

Well done Ireland for showing you give zero fucks about women.

Interesting also that after centuries of Catholicism the "sacred" trans are now the ideology in favour. All the wokesters will need to get on etsy and buy their trans prayer cards and bin the Mary ones. As an ex Catholic I'm all for dumping it, but in favour of this shit, really?

AfterSchoolWorry · 22/07/2019 10:20

By that I mean the British Authorities of course, not the woman in the street.

AfterSchoolWorry · 22/07/2019 10:18

Fucks sake.

The only hope we have is if the Irish are less politely indulgent than the British have been to this nonsense.

Popchyk · 22/07/2019 10:09

"I don’t understand how there is money to pay for 2 guards to escort this Male prisoner, whilst in communal areas of the womens prison, yet they couldn’t facilitate that in the men’s prison?"

This.

Interesting that the male sex offender is not named. They usually are at the time of conviction.

If male sex offenders automatically get anonymity in the media if they claim to be transgender then every single sex offender is going to claim to be transgender.

That is pretty obvious.

Lordamighty · 22/07/2019 10:06

How long before he invokes human rights legislation to demand to be able to mix freely with the other female prisoners without extra supervision? He has got away with it so far so why not carry on pushing & pushing until he gets what he really wants?

happydappy2 · 22/07/2019 09:58

I don’t understand how there is money to pay for 2 guards to escort this Male prisoner, whilst in communal areas of the womens prison, yet they couldn’t facilitate that in the men’s prison?

Bonkers

Pudner · 22/07/2019 08:16

Haven't seen much discussion of it on twitter (by Irish people apart from Glinner) but its been trending on boards.ie since yesterday morning (www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057998426). That threads actually where I first read about the prison story.

Oh that is good that it is being discussed. I am not on boards so was not aware but was gobsmacked (not) that there was little or no mention on Twitter from the usual TRAs except for one person who called Ricky Gervais a sad and nasty man for his Yaniv tweet.

NotBadConsidering · 22/07/2019 07:59

I'd imagine they're doing it to protect the other prisoners, but it's more cost effective and sensible to keep security around the trans prisoner than to give every woman an individual security guard

Well yes, of course they are, but I’m interested in the way it hasn’t been framed that way in any statement or the article. Clearly women need protecting from this male predator but even then people still tiptoe round with language.

miri1985 · 22/07/2019 07:57

Interesting too that Yaniv has not been discussed at all

Haven't seen much discussion of it on twitter (by Irish people apart from Glinner) but its been trending on boards.ie since yesterday morning (www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057998426). That threads actually where I first read about the prison story.

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SarahTancredi · 22/07/2019 07:57
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