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Transgender sex offender in womens prison in Ireland

86 replies

miri1985 · 22/07/2019 04:53

www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/sex-offender-undergoing-male-female-16623261.amp?__twitter_impression=true

I know people liked to claim that the Irish system was set up so this wouldn't happen but it was clear this was only a matter of time. Hope this wakes a few people up about the self ID system here.

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EweSurname · 23/07/2019 21:59

It’s Karen white!!! What the actual fuck

www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/sex-offender-undergoing-male-female-16623261

CumannNamBan · 23/07/2019 20:23

Fine Gael brought this legislation in. All parties support it. 🤬

Juells · 23/07/2019 20:14

Now that FF are out of office it might be worth contacting them? They have a huge number of rural voters who won't be too sympathetic. There isn't much else they can attack the government on at the moment, because of the Confidence & Supply agreement. This could be a cause for them, at the moment everyone is accusing them of being indistinguishable from FG.

Juells · 23/07/2019 20:09

Well, I too shall be emailing my TD but as I live in the next closest and most woke constituency to Grainne I won't hold my breath.

Which constituency?

Mermoose · 23/07/2019 20:08

I have a feeling they'll all be scrambling over each other to be more woke than the next one
I haven't seen any party being sensible or even willing to hear both sides. Regina O'Doherty was virtue-signalling all over Twitter when that Prime Time discussion was on.

Juells · 23/07/2019 20:04

@Mermoose I intended voting for PBP in the last election, but saw that they'd swallowed TWAW hook line and sinker.

@GrainneWail I'm in Rathdown too. I'm not a Fine Gael voter, but someone I know got very fast results when she went to see David Bailey about something. He holds a surgery (is that what it's called? Doesn't sound right) in Baker's Corner pub on a Saturday AFAIK.

I have a feeling they'll all be scrambling over each other to be more woke than the next one.

Mermoose · 23/07/2019 20:02

I just emailed Regina O'Doherty who seems to be the Minister with responsibility for this (although it seems to have been brought in under Joan Burton).
I'm so angry about this. It's such bullshit.

Annasgirl · 23/07/2019 19:35

Mermoose - thanks for that. Perhaps we could get the law overturned on review, I mean, a man cannot become any other sex.? But I will need to save for a few years ladies, unless I win the lotto.

Annasgirl · 23/07/2019 19:33

Dear God, I go to the beach for the day and this happens!!!!

And my dear woke Sis said I was exaggerating and that this would never, ever, happen and that all those lovely Transwomen she knows are so cuddly and I'm such a terrible radical feminist (as opposed to a wonderful liberal feminist).

Well, I too shall be emailing my TD but as I live in the next closest and most woke constituency to Grainne I won't hold my breath.

Mermoose · 23/07/2019 19:28

Seriously, who wrote that law? Is that normal legal speak? "the person's sex becomes that of a man" - it doesn't. Surely they can't just write a law that blatantly ignores reality?

Mermoose · 23/07/2019 19:27

Section 18.

"Where a gender recognition certificate is issued to a person the person’s gender shall from the date of that issue become for all purposes the preferred gender so that if the preferred gender is the male gender the person’s sex becomes that of a man, and if it is the female gender the person’s sex becomes that of a woman."

So there we have it. Gender = sex.

S1naidSucks · 23/07/2019 19:12

Now that one has been let in, that’s opened the door for the rest of the creeps to get into female prisons. The Irish MRAs/TRAs must be rubbing their hands with glee.

CumannNamBan · 23/07/2019 19:03

Gender Recognition Act (Ireland) www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2015/act/25/enacted/en/html

JackyHolyoake · 23/07/2019 18:24

I think we all need to start asking all our politicians everywhere why they are being so blatantly dishonest!

We know they are lying. They know they are lying. We and they know that no man can ever be a woman and that no woman can ever be a man.

Why are they lying?

GrainneWail · 23/07/2019 18:21

I know it's been posted before, so sorry for asking, but I'm travelling and Internet is shit for googling... Does anyone have a link to the legislation on self id? I want to include references in my letter to tds for all the good it'll do. Tia.

NewFoneWhoDis · 23/07/2019 12:49

I thought Ireland had exclusions to self-ID - namely prisons and female wards and so on?

This is NOT good. Pretty much every nonce will start to grow their hair in order to get into the Dochas which is much cushier than the wing of the mens prison where they are potentially a target for violence and when they get there continue to do what they do best - prey on women.

pachyderm · 23/07/2019 12:22

Oncewas yes.

Mermoose · 23/07/2019 11:17

I live in the wokest part of tge country (rathdown) so, there's little chance of letters to my tds having any effect
Oh good luck. Although my local TD is Bríd Smith, I'd be amazed if she responds with anything but an explanation of what a terrible person I am.

Coffeeandchocolate9 · 23/07/2019 10:59

It was feared she would be attacked in the male prison.' Then why not give this sex offfender protective status in the male prison, rather than put the sex offender in the female prison and then provide protective status, when in reality what they are protecting is the female population in that prison against this sex offender?

It's not like there's established protocol and systems in place for male prisoners (paedophiles) who are likely to be attacked by other male prisoners, is it? Hmm

This never happens.

VickyEadie · 23/07/2019 10:49

'It was feared she would be attacked in the male prison.' Then why not give this sex offfender protective status in the male prison, rather than put the sex offender in the female prison and then provide protective status, when in reality what they are protecting is the female population in that prison against this sex offender?

That was my very first thought.

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 23/07/2019 10:28

Does anyone know if Resisters Ireland are on here?

beanaseireann · 23/07/2019 08:07

Why am I not surprised.
The justice system in Ireland is a joke.

GrainneWail · 22/07/2019 21:22

I live in the wokest part of tge country (rathdown) so, there's little chance of letters to my tds having any effect, but I'll send them anyway. I know from somw work campaigns that sending template letters isn't too effective (they get dismissed too easily) so if anyone does suggest l draft, please think about tailoring it if you feel you can.

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 22/07/2019 18:31

DuchessDumbarton
I've no problem doing this but could do with a little help how to word it.I'll try get a start tonight but if anyone has any ideas how to word it I'm not great at letter writing.

DuchessDumbarton · 22/07/2019 18:06

Is it just me or does anyone else feel slight trepidation at putting your head above the parapet to write to a TD about this.

My professional body has gone very woke talking about "men can be pregnant too".........