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Fascinating tweets about JY’s waxing case. Read here. (cont. thread 2)

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GirlDownUnder · 22/07/2019 01:34

Thread 1 here
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3632380-Fascinating-tweets-about-JY-s-waxing-case-Read-here-Thread-title-edited-by-MNHQ

This is a continuation of all that is JY and their waxing cases bought against minority women in Canada.

We are a fair way in, and still are no closer to knowing what the final judgment will be, but we have lots of info. and are finally seeing this case, and all the attending issues with self ID, in the public eye and main stream press.

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fascinated · 22/07/2019 15:36

And even if some females are predatory: the behaviour will be very different in both nature and magnitude given the superior physical strength of males and their ability to impregnate. Also: two wrongs do not make a right.

fascinated · 22/07/2019 15:31

Re Fiona R. Indeed. Stupidity and doublethink. I despair. And in a position of responsibility! Seeking to represent other people!

fascinated · 22/07/2019 15:30

If he really says he told her he has a vulva they could potentially use that to find against him on the grounds that he misrepresented himself to the waxers.

OvaHere · 22/07/2019 15:13

This the whole Fiona Robertson thread.

twitter.com/fionasnp/status/1152597331881209857?s=21

I fucking despair of people like this. Her argument seems to be it's wrong to say JY is not a woman because women are predatory too therefore JY is a predatory woman. Also we know that 'cis' men are the biggest group of predators but that has no relevance to JY because JY is a woman.

The stupidity and doublethink is unbearable.

fascinated · 22/07/2019 14:48

I really worry about Fiona Robertson. Honestly.

HorridHenrysNits · 22/07/2019 14:19

Me too nauticant. I don't think DC can possibly allow JY any real 'win' here, but I expect damage limitation. And to dismiss as many on technicalities as possible. Second lady for example said she didn't travel out of area anyway, so one could argue the issue of discrimination doesn't apply.

TurboTeddy · 22/07/2019 12:30

Filming or recording is not permitted in the hearing room unless you have permission.

www.bchrt.bc.ca/law-library/policies/index.htm

drspouse · 22/07/2019 12:06

I have not watched the videos but were they taken in court, is this allowed?

nauticant · 22/07/2019 12:00

From what I've read, Devyn Cousineau has a conflict of interest between maintaining the trans establishment and standing up for individuals who just by virtue of their circumstances, threaten it.

I'm expecting to see an extremely political decision that will primarily be about protecting the trans establishment while casting out the black sheep.

DanaPhoenix · 22/07/2019 11:56

(Blushes) coming from you Girl that's high praise. Enjoy your dinner.

IStillMissBlockbuster · 22/07/2019 11:53

Let's just say I don't have faith in the system, especially as the member seems to have given extraordinary leeway.

GirlDownUnder · 22/07/2019 11:51

Oh wow this thread already - you guys are amazing, and funny, and so much new info Brew

I think I had to remind my face to stop doing this Shock 🤦‍♀️

Dana you rock! It's my dinner time here so I'll listen properly to those recordings later.... wouldnt it be a shame if MO got a link hmm

Ova The next case isn't til the 27th, and I think it can be months before the tribunal makes a judgement.

The way new info keeps coming in, anyone want to take a punt on what thread number we'll run to?

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terfsandwich · 22/07/2019 11:51

Let's not forget Morgan Oger had a wife and kids before transitioning.

Ticks all the boxes.

DanaPhoenix · 22/07/2019 11:39

Maybe JY thinks it means into sex. I'll get my coat.

DanaPhoenix · 22/07/2019 11:38

They are a very telling set of videos... Member seems biased but I do sense moments of exasperation so hopefully just being overly solicitous to avoid any appeals.

Honestly, I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'm in absolute awe of those sitting in the gallery for these tribunals, the most you hear is a quiet sigh.

The whole thing is a "moose" court, because this is such a farce it's way beyond a kangaroo court. Those poor, poor women.

GiantKitten · 22/07/2019 11:36

JY has no idea what intersex means, right?

MsSafina · 22/07/2019 11:32

www.conservativewoman.co.uk/this-mayor-khan-is-where-your-trans-agenda-goes-so-tragically-wrong/
Looks like only Conservative blogs stand up for biological women.

OvaHere · 22/07/2019 11:32

Jesus Lang

drspouse · 22/07/2019 11:30

That Spectator article is pure gold.

LangCleg · 22/07/2019 11:27

I don't remember this posted on the other thread, sorry if it was. When your Woke intersectionalism is indistinguishable from MRA rhetoric. You're a lost cause, Fiona.

Fascinating tweets about JY’s waxing case. Read here. (cont. thread 2)
sackrifice · 22/07/2019 11:23

'i think the relevant question is what was he ask, urm - what was she asking to be waxed'. 5:20.

Beyond excellent. The member needs to take herself down and give herself a good talking to for misgendering in their own tribunal.

DanaPhoenix · 22/07/2019 10:37

Attaching screenshot of video still showing video title and you can see a comment underneath basically saying similar to what I did upthread. Sorry not sure how to post video link.

Fascinating tweets about JY’s waxing case. Read here. (cont. thread 2)
Destinysdaughter · 22/07/2019 10:37

Not sure if this has already been shared but it's the video/audio of them saying they have a vulva. You can hear someone in the public gallery sighing in disbelief!

TurboTeddy · 22/07/2019 10:34

It seems that Devyn Cousineau is Head of the BCHRT. I found this article about another case she is hearing. The complainant is a transgender prisoner who is awaiting extradition to the US to face a murder charge.

The complainant has been detained since 2014 but has more recently discovered their trans identity and has been transferred to the female prison estate, they can remain there under certain conditions. They have made 2 HR complaints about their treatment in both the male and female prison estate. Part of their complaint is that a female prison guard refused to search them because they did not want to touch the prisoners male genitalia. The complainant is trying to argue that this denies their gender identity and is a breach of their Human Rights.

I cannot find any information about whether this case has been heard yet but it seems that DC has form for accepting complaints about men having their feelings hurt when women don't want to touch their genitals. The JY case is being portrayed as an isolated case but clearly it is not.

www.gendertrending.com/2019/04/27/transwoman-in-b-c-womens-prison-files-complaint-over-requirement-that-he-demonstrates-expression-consistent-with-stated-belief-that-he-is-transgender/

DanaPhoenix · 22/07/2019 10:22

Time stamp is 1:27. SarahPickles posted the link to the YouTube channel, perhaps she has watched all the videos and can confirm? I just selected all videos after following channel link and watched in numerical order. But do check video 7 for proof.

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