Fascinating tweets about JY’s waxing case. Read here. (cont. thread 2)

I searched Sarah's name and found it - I think the person she was arguing with is Mhairi Black's partner?

twitter.com/sarahditum/status/1153242426385010688

The person, unusually, spells out TRA logic and sticks to her point somewhat instead of constantly changing the subject, changing the premises and going round in circles, so obviously Sarah wipes the floor with her.

Which of the research she tweeted is that? I just skimmed briefly but can't find it! And where is Sarah Ditum's tweet? I can't find that either!

I'm not sure exactly what Sarah was referencing and I can't find the tweet again. I don't have a twitter account so I was viewing as not logged in. I quite often can't find stuff when I re look for it. Sorry!

What is even worse is in the 'research' Fiona used to back up her point the first two example were TW.

Which of the research she tweeted is that? I just skimmed briefly but can't find it! And where is Sarah Ditum's tweet? I can't find that either!

The replies on Ricky Gervais thread!

Ricky gervais has commented on yaniv’s adolescent swimming session

mobile.twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1153330404356698114

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In the middle of a court case?

Bloody Nora!

I just heard an ad on the radio saying JY would be on the Niall Boylan show tonight from 9.

Here's the link for those outside Ireland to listen

www.classichits.ie/the-niall-boylan-show/

So it's a call in show and Niall doesn't blindly agree with his guests. The tag line on the ad was should women be forced to do this,so I'm not sure he's convinced. I can't participate tonight but hope an Irish MNer will see this and try to ring in to make sure it's balanced.

I don't know if this has been posted before, but this is the Tribunal's report from the previous case (back in May):

www.bchrt.bc.ca/shareddocs/decisions/2019/may/106_JY_v_Various_Waxing_Salons_2019_BCHRT_106.pdf

The result was that the salons didn't have to pay JY anything, but JY had to pay one of the salons $150.

It was heard by Devyn Cousineau, who had some rather negative things to say about JY.

Fiona Robertson has always been a sub standard politician and why people vote for her has always been a mystery to me.

The coercive control conference twitter account is nailing it here

I've just been googling waxing in my area.

It seems there are specific male services advertised (male therapist) and female only services.

There are larger salons that offer treatments to both but don't specify the sex of the therapist carrying out the treatment so they could feasibly employ male and female staff.

One of the large salons only offers chest and back waxing for men and has this disclaimer so I'm guessing the therapists are probably female.

Please Note
We do not do intimate male waxing and we operate a chaperone policy so that staff are not alone in the building with someone they don’t know. This means that if you are a new customer we may not be able to accommodate you at short notice.

I also noted that one of the larger salons has warning in the male massage section that says 'No extras so please don't ask' - clearly this is a common occurrence. It should be noted there is no such warning on the female page for the same massage!

It all seems rather sensible and there is somewhere for everyone to go to receive a service (unless you are a vexatious individual who seeks validation at the expense of others).

It's as if these people have never had sex but have only ever played with crotchless Barbies and Kens.

They seem not to understand that genitalia are sex organs.

That forcing someone to touch another's sexual organ is sexual assault. They are suggesting the state step into the position of sexual predator.

It's like when they say "sex work is work" and somehow erase the "sex" component. Yes, all wage work is coerced work; that has LONG been the left's understanding of labour relations: the need for wages is the coercion. Therefore "sex work is coerced work." Therefore, in prostitution, "sex is coerced." The word for coerced sex is rape. Therefore, to legalise prostitution is to legalise rape.

I’ve never heard of a gendered aesthetician. I would expect to be able to go into any spa/beautician/salon and get any treatment I want. So it just seems strange that JY is being refused imho Is Lydia trying too hard to make her point?

I've ONLY ever heard of beauticians who choose and take the training for the sex the decide they want to beutate!

I'd never walk into a barber shop and expect to get a graduated bob I could live with. Nor would I wander blissfully into a male grooming parlour and expect any of the staff to want to wax 'my lady garden' or even to have the training to do so - and yes, it is different, different product, different techniques.

Is that misgendering of a beauty therapist I see?

Her only route out of the cognitive dissonance is to say WOMEN DO IT TOO, thus completing the transformation to fully fledged MRA. I'd say it's pathetic but y'know... she's a fucking lawmaker. So it's fucking dangerous.

And Fiona continues to explore the intersection between Woke feminism and MRA talking points in defence of self ID...

... behold! An elected representative!

And even if some females are predatory: the behaviour will be very different in both nature and magnitude given the superior physical strength of males and their ability to impregnate. Also: two wrongs do not make a right.

What is even worse is in the 'research' Fiona used to back up her point the first two example were TW.

As Sarah Ditum pointed out to her you are using the fact that male pattern criminal behaviour is being recorded as female to prove that 'women do it too' in order to excuse the male pattern behaviour in someone you're desperate to pretend is a woman.

What a mess of gigantic proportions. I hope this woman is out of her job soon. She's not fit to be near a Women and Equalities role.

Just on a point of information, I noticed Elsie said Yanivs mum had misgendered her. I'm not sure she did. In the audio of corresponding tweets Mum repeats that JV is the "voice" of LBGT etc but it sounds like "boys", the accent makes it sound similar. Not a particularly important point all things considered!

Absolutely ridiculous amounts of latitude shown to JV. The member tells them to stop talking and they just carries on regardless. Loves the sound of their own voice! Particularly amusing at the end of him questioning his own mum and desperately trying to think of more ways to get her to talk about themselves "what's my.... Personality like?". Narcissus personified!

It’s internalised misogyny. It’s very strong here in Scotland, I am realising!