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Fascinating tweets about JY’s waxing case. Read here. (cont. thread 2)

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GirlDownUnder · 22/07/2019 01:34

Thread 1 here
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3632380-Fascinating-tweets-about-JY-s-waxing-case-Read-here-Thread-title-edited-by-MNHQ

This is a continuation of all that is JY and their waxing cases bought against minority women in Canada.

We are a fair way in, and still are no closer to knowing what the final judgment will be, but we have lots of info. and are finally seeing this case, and all the attending issues with self ID, in the public eye and main stream press.

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GirlDownUnder · 26/07/2019 01:06

Without TH, there would have been no legal representation for the respondents at the tribunal.

So Total Hero is not that far off really BoF Grin

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DanaPhoenix · 26/07/2019 01:03

Hi BitOfFun, yes it's quite confusing, I think I've worked it out though. I'm just going from memory here (super busy day ahead so no time to back track and check) please anyone feel free to add or correct where necessary...

Here goes, TH was mentioned way back in Elsie's earlier threads under different initials. I think the initial change is to avoid confusion as possibly another respondent has the same initials? Or perhaps for TH privacy?

TH was one of the many beauticians who refused service to JY. At the threat of further action (unsure if claims court or this tribunal) TH response was basically bring it on. TH then attempt to engage lawyer after lawyer to represent her only to be refused. Eventually found a lawyer (unsure if independent lawyer or connected to group representing the current respondents) to take her case. At some point in negotiations TH lawyer advised that they intended to introduce JY internet posts into evidence (unclear if found by TH or lawyer). JY dropped the claim.

TH has been coming to the tribunal to...

Offer moral support to current respondents.
See JY finally get their long awaited comeuppance.
Get a front row seat to the unfolding shitshow.

I think it's all of the above.

ArranUpsideDown · 26/07/2019 00:41

TH is the subject of a complaint by JY.

TH consulted 26 lawyers, all of whom refused to act for her and advised her to settle.

TH persisted and found the people who are now representing several respondents to JY's complaints. This representation may be of use to all of the other respondents whose cases have been consolidated and don't have representation.

Without TH, there would have been no legal representation for the respondents at the tribunal.

BitOfFun · 26/07/2019 00:14

Can anybody explain what they understand of "TH" (Total Hero) in the most recent notes from the tribunal by GoingLikeElsie? Im a bit confused.

OvaHere · 25/07/2019 18:47

EXCLUSIVE: Jessica Yaniv accused of trying to share child porn, sexual harassment of minors

I predicted the other day that this would end in seized hard drives. Not surprised in the slightest.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 25/07/2019 16:55

Seeing them al in the same place is a real eye opener - should your eye not have been opened by previous sightings. Hopefully this will peak a fair few and scupper the sorry toad's aspirations for being rich and famous - or whatver!

nauticant · 25/07/2019 16:55

The defence of what Yaniv represents will be to paint Yaniv as such a singular case, and so incredibly extreme, that Yaniv says absolutely nothing about the bigger picture and about how other similarly-motivated men might behave and seek to exploit the loopholes presented by the bonkers gender laws in Canada.

"Everything has worked fine. There's been a problem with just one individual, but guess what? As a result of going through our wonderful system, they were revealed for the uniquely bad individual they are and they've been stopped in their tracks. Let's keep things just as they are so that we continue to help those in need and can still deal properly with the vanishingly rare bad apples."

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 25/07/2019 16:53

Jesus that article and those screenshots

He is seriously repellent

Twitter truly picked the wrong side of history here didn’t they?

GirlDownUnder · 25/07/2019 16:50

Ashley Smith has told The Post Millennial she will be filing a formal police report this week on her experiences with Yaniv

So, that'll be 2 police reports because Jessica Rumple has already submitted hers.

I wonder how many others will come forward.

JY has been a sexual deviant for a long while now, I just hope he's never actually done more than talk.

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CuriousaboutSamphire · 25/07/2019 16:45

Oooh! So the Member was quite right, social media will indeed cause se JY all sorts of problems....

.. hopefully that will get a wider audience, more pick ups... it is incontravertible proof that JY is absolutely out of JYs mind! Such blatant groomng and manipulation of minors surely cannot go unpunished!

EweSurname · 25/07/2019 16:38

EXCLUSIVE: Jessica Yaniv accused of trying to share child porn, sexual harassment of minors

www.thepostmillennial.com/exclusive-jessica-yaniv-accused-of-trying-to-share-child-porn-sexual-harassment-of-minors/

GirlDownUnder · 25/07/2019 16:38

Naughty nauticant - I got my hopes up then Grin

So far this whole process has been pretty toothless but if I'm honest I'm kinda hoping this fails so the case gets heard in real court.

My worry is if the members' final ruling leaves splinters in her arse then we could end up no further forward with the whole twam / what's a woman thing.

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nauticant · 25/07/2019 16:24

Ah, it looks like I mis-read. The member seemed to continue to resist the really damaging evidence of Yaniv and their nature being introduced into the proceedings.

nauticant · 25/07/2019 16:21

Tweeting has resumed and it looks like a proper cross-examination of Yaniv was permitted:

twitter.com/goinglikeelsie/status/1154268628939755521

ArranUpsideDown · 25/07/2019 14:47

Dropping this in, Kaufman's The End of Traditional Civil Rights

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3448119-Excellent-Essay-The-End-of-Traditional-Civil-Rights-Kaufman

Jux · 25/07/2019 14:03

That New Tech article is really interesting. I like this quote particularly

"Even Yaniv is unable to get the story straight as it is now quite clear that Yaniv’s version of events is largely steeped in falsehoods and outright deception. And this subterfuge was largely cultivated through self-identity laws in Canada as well as Twitterati who pushed the notion that Yaniv was whatever he said he wanted to be with many happily offering threats to report individuals to Twitter for WrongThink over the past year. "

When laid out so clearly, it's hard to see how any could gainsay it.

littlbrowndog · 25/07/2019 13:27

Exactly oneended

Protected by law

Yaniv loves it.

OneEndedStick · 25/07/2019 13:22

I mean, he can;'t even keep a straight face half the time. Of course he's loving it. Every moment of it. Especially the parts where he's interviewed on popular media, right up in the same spots where someone of significance would normally be. Especially when he's asked "difficult" questions, when he gets to make shit up on the fly, and feel mighty clever about it, as he watches everyone not dare challenge or rebutt, let alone say "You're a bloke, you don't menstruate. Knock off the bullshit, you blatant grifter"-

Because he gets kicks from the fact that his lies are protected by the state, and material reality, people who speak factually, are criminalised.

Goosefoot · 25/07/2019 12:28

The whole idea of human rights is being transmogrified before our eyes, and we sit there watching, superannuated classical-liberal deer in the progressive headlights.

I am really curious about this idea, I think it's important. Particularly, I am wondering where it really started. I think I first heard people warning about this kind of problem quite far back, well before trans issues ever took off.

ArranUpsideDown · 25/07/2019 12:12

Yaniv is now proposing to his council that local schools should be given free sanitary products

I saw that - alongside JY's proposal to instruct children on their usage tho' that wasn't in the accompanying screenshots, just in the intro to the screenshots. NB, presumably children rather than just girls because let's not think that sanitary product use is specific to one sex.

littlbrowndog · 25/07/2019 12:00

Yaniv loves the attention. Loves it
That s why Yaniv goes onto tv shows and radio shows where he knows Yaniv will get mullered.

Any attention is good
People with lives, families , jobs would not have time or inclination to do this stuff

See Yaniv is now proposing to his council that local schools should be given free sanitary products. Will Yaniv be distributing them to the schools 🤔
Jeez what is it with this period fetish

sneakypinky · 25/07/2019 11:42

Oh thank god for that. For a moment I thought it was serious.

They've gone that bonkers these days I wouldnt have been surprised if it was real.

nauticant · 25/07/2019 11:39

It's for that reason my eye was caught by your post about Bill Whatcott. I would imagine if that dispute ended up in court there would be a chance to ask direct questions of Yaniv, to find contradictions with evidence he'd given in another legal forum, and then push for verifiable evidence to be provided. This wouldn't decide the court case, but it would show how the law, and particularly how it is implemented, is unfit for purpose. And especially how it can be used by abusers.

If Yaniv had any sense he'd step away from all legal proceedings to stop damaging himself and his cause further. But then Yaniv is driven by fetishes and hatreds and might not actually be able to stop.

GirlDownUnder · 25/07/2019 11:34

sneak oh it's satire and it's brilliant and brute. 😂

These days, doctors know nothing compared to people like myself who have spent six months doing Gender Studies before being forced to quit due to the stress of being made to write essays twice a month.

So-called ‘biological’ women have had it far too good for far too long. The only way we will achieve true equality is if trans women are given more rights than cis women. We need to remove the privilege from cis women, so that men who identify as women can be given the upper hand. That’s the beauty of intersectional feminism. That’s why this case is so important.

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sneakypinky · 25/07/2019 11:27

spectator.us/every-woman-right-scrotum-waxed/

Can someone please god confirm that this is satire? I can't even.

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