Libfems on twitter blame terfs when butch lesbians get asked to leave female bathrooms

Butch lesbians have been asked to leave women's loos since forever. So have tall, short-haired women in trousers. I have a six-foot-tall, straight, cunty-woman friend who's a carpenter and favours jeans and boots and shirts. She laughs about the number of times women have said 'But this is the Ladies, the Gents is next door' when she's gone for a pee. She's never been mortally offended and as soon as she starts talking to people they realise they've made a mistake and are often apologetic.

It's much more difficult to pass than people think.

Yes I know what you mean - FWIW, I read them all as responding to libfems, not to your OP! Solidarity to you.

Oh I understand OP - I totally agree with you, and am glad you posted it- I posted a much longer comment upthread.

The “don’t fall for it” was for lurkers - don’t feel you can’t question people, which these stories are trying to do.

Fake news. They are just trying to weaponise your female socialisation against you. Don’t fall for it.

Next.

The poor wife wears a badge saying ‘I’m a girl’

I’m more offended that she’s married to a girl! What country did they get married in? After all, only grown women can get married here.

Women can spot if someone is a man or a woman. We can. It’s in built.

All people are good at it, but it does happen.

It's trickier now, though, with people making body modifications.

I get missexed, occasionally, genuinely I mean.It’s pretty obvious I’m not a fella but it does happen. Normally it’s just a case of, ‘hello sir... Sorry, madam’ and a bit of embarrassment.

I do get called a man/fella/chap quite often, every week in fact. It’s always by men and it’s never unintentional. There was a bus driver on our rout for a while who called me sir every single time I got on his bus, despite being clearly female, being 5 feet 2 and having huge tits, and having heard my voice and DS call me mum numerous times.

Homophobes gonna be homophobic and certain handmaidenly little libfems who don’t want to be seen to be homophobic gonna project their homophobia onto others. ’Twas ever thus.

The poor wife wears a badge saying ‘I’m a girl’

Ah but is she the cunty kind of girl?

Women can spot if someone is a man or a woman. We can. It’s in built.
Humans are very good at spotting danger. If you are a woman then unknown men equals danger.
That’s why we can tell men from women.

I’ve never thought a butch lesbian was a man.

Mumsnet is a hotbed of horrible terfs apparently.
I mean really.

There was a thread on twitter a few days ago where a woman blamed terfs for her ‘butch’ wife being shouted at in the women’s toilet.
Pretty sure Mumsnet came up.
The poor wife wears a badge saying ‘I’m a girl’.

I doubt that any butch women has actually been asked to leave the ladies.

It's not women, TERFs or otherwise, that are threatening women.
It's men, specifically men invading women's spaces, that anyone is objecting to.
I wouldn't GAF if someone mistook me for a bloke in the loos in error. Strangely though although I often wear checked shirts jeans and trainers it's never happened. That would be because we can tell the difference!

My guess would be that if this is really on the increase, it is because women are just less sure about who is in their bathrooms, and feel the need to set some boundaries. I think the thing to remember might be that many of them actually don't have much experience trying to differentiate with people taking hormones or having surgeries, so they don't feel like they can rely on their intuition.

But really I am somewhat doubtful that this is happening in large numbers. I am sure it happens occasionally, over the years I have met the odd women I thought at first might be a man. It's not usual but it isn't unheard of, especially as women get into their 50s. So perhaps it happens a bit more often now, but I can't imagine that it is a huge bunch of people.

I think also in the past, if people were really unsure, they didn't say anything, as making an error fees so embarrassing for everyone. But people are feeling defensive.

🐸

I hopped out just in time.

And that’s why we don’t bloody care that they don’t like us. We see them...

And that's why they don't like us.

Boiled frogs.

I don't know why it took me so long.
My eyes have been opened.

The older I get, the less mimsyish I get. I haven’t the patience these days for nonsense.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD

Not only can we tell the difference, we are polite and courteous not to make a fuss.

Not any more.

Me me! Hand up hand up! I know the answer to this one!

It’s all a big stinky lie. Women can tell the difference between and man and a woman even a really masculine looking one) 99.9% of the time. The worst would be a woman doing a double take. I smell burning pants.