Dave McMullan from BBCR4: "I'd never put any trans women on alongside some horrific terf" [*name edited by MNHQ]

Asked them to release all emails from 2018-2019, and minutes of meetings from same period, where topic was guest appearances in trans and women rights debates. Under the FoI, so will need to reply.

Excellent! Take it to 'em!

Same also.

I'm escalating on the basis that he said he'd personally vetoed feminists so it's not solely about his use of the term "TERF".

They're doubling down because one of their producers has let slip a common agenda that is biased and anti democratic. So it's 'move along, nothing to see here'.
Out and out liars.

So they aren’t going to do anything? If he is soo ill he doesn’t know what he is saying (or is unfiltered) then maybe he is too sick to work? Is he on sick leave?

The fact that they think it is even about 'transgender stories' speaks volumes.......

"Asked them to release all emails from 2018-2019, and minutes of meetings from same period, where topic was guest appearances in trans and women rights debates. Under the FoI, so will need to reply"

Ooh nice one Alessandra

We should emphasise that the suggestion that certain categories of guest have not appeared on the Today programme is incorrect.

Denying what you have not been accused of. The suggestion is that for one peice, DM "vetoed" a horrible terf.

And as for 'new BBC News LGBT correspondent Ben Hunte,' I think we've seen enough there.

@MrsSnippyPants
I got an identical reply. Asked them to release all emails from 2018-2019, and minutes of meetings from same period, where topic was guest appearances in trans and women rights debates. Under the FoI, so will need to reply.

I have had a response to my complaint. It's shit.

Mine was identical. I agree with your verdict.

I got the same response, of course. And I will be taking it further.

I don't believe they can have looked into HIS OWN ADMISSION that he'd exercised bias in less than two days anything like properly, and saying they've had differing viewpoints on completely glosses over the 'GC on graveyard shift' tactic.

Mendacious twats.

I can't stand the way organisations reply to complaints like this. It always comes down to:

'Thanks for wasting your time complaining. We know this guy is a misogynist, so what, none of us cares. We've spoken to him about hiding his misogyny better in future so he shouldn't tweet anything else like that, but he'll keep influencing the organisation and making things difficult and unfair for women. You're welcome to complain about that too, but as you can see, we don't actually care so we'll just reply with another message like this. Anyway, all the best, bye for now.'

Can we complain to anyone else, like Ofcom? No wonder the BBC is dreadfully biased when men like him are influencing it.

I have had a response to my complaint. It's shit.

"Thanks for contacting us with your reaction to a recent tweet from a member of BBC staff.

We raised your concerns about Dave McMullan's online comments with senior staff at BBC News and the Today programme, who respond:

"Thank you for getting in touch about the tweet by a member of the Today programme staff. The staff member concerned realises his comments were inappropriate - he deleted the tweet before apologising for the offence caused, and explained he had been ill recently. We regularly speak to staff about the right tone and content for their social media profiles, we’ve taken the opportunity to do so again here following this example.

We should emphasise that the suggestion that certain categories of guest have not appeared on the Today programme is incorrect. We have a strong track record in covering the debate over transgender rights and gender recognition, including a special report from John Humphrys hearing from a wide range of viewpoints. More recently we've had a number of interviews on the subject of transgender athletes, with contributors including Martina Navratilova, Joanna Harper, Rachel McKinnon and Sharron Davies.

Elsewhere, BBC News has examined a wide range of transgender stories from different perspectives.

For example, the new BBC News LGBT correspondent Ben Hunte looked at the new ban on transgender people entering the US military, while the BBC News website covered the help offered by the NHS to children experiencing gender identity issues.

We hope this helps to answer your concerns."

We make comments like yours available to the relevant teams and senior executives on our daily report. Audience reaction helps to ensure we’re aware of how issues like this affect people.

Kind Regards

BBC Complaints Team"

Let's all keep the text of our complaints plus BBC replies and coordinate here if we need to take it to Ofcom

I guess now I know why I've had to turn the today programme off in a rage every time they've touched on the 'trans debate'

He’s either really ill or just not very bright.

Or pissed, of course. Added to being a mysogynist!*

He has been committing the offense for heaven knows how long; the only thing he did this week was think that he could get brownie points by boasting about it.

I hadn't heard of him until this week. But his Twitter posting history shows he doesn't proofread his posts and his literacy standards are poor. Odd for someone in his job.

He can be a hideous bigot and a bit poorly. Even hideous bigots get the sniffles. Poor lamb. Or is this the Roseanne Barr defence? Night Nurse made me do it?

I will find time today to make a complaint about this - a pointless one to the BBC as they just dismiss women's complaints about all this but also one to Ofcom.
Don't let this drop as it's a classic example of the BBC's bias - all writ large.

He’s either really ill or just not very bright.

He has been committing the offense for heaven knows how long; the only thing he did this week was think that he could get brownie points by boasting about it.

theunrivalledjoysofparenting - So he’s broken the BBC’s guidelines on social media conduct. That’s worth a complaint.

It is. He's done a lot wrong on all sorts of levels. Go for it and don't give up!

He’s either really ill or just not very bright.

Or he's just a bog standard misogynist.

I also found this:

www.bbc.com/editorialguidelines/guidelines/fairness

I'm hoping the editorial guidelines mean the same thing when they say 'fairness' as do OFCOM because there's a lot here that Dave McMullan - duty editor, producer and reporter for BBC Radio 4's flagship news Today Programme - has breached.

This sentence sums it up:

Our content should be based on respect, openness and straight dealing

He knows he's in trouble if he's now claiming that illness caused him to tell the truth about his treatment of women. I don't think it will let him off the hook though.

They all know what they're doing, the men in charge making trans happen, they just don't tell us exactly what they're up to normally.

So thanks for that, Dave.

signed

A horrific TERF

Shame the thread has g9ne poof. He was getting his arse handed to h8m.

So he’s broken the BBC’s guidelines on social media conduct. That’s worth a complaint.

Beggars belief. He’s meant to be a journalist. He’s either really ill or just not very bright.

I'm wondering if we can complain under the regulatory complaints procedure - this gets escalated a lot quicker than a general complaint.

I've read here and there that a complaint about 'fairness' may be the way to go, rather than 'bias/partiality' - if any MNers are au fait with BBC charters, framework agreements, codes etc. please advise.

I found this:

www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0031/57388/fairness-privacy-complaints.pdf

I'll have a proper look at it tomorrow.

Where was the fauxpology posted? I can't find it.

And no, I'm not giving up either. I did last time but now I'm going to jump through every fucking hoop until I get to ofcom. How fucking, FUCKING dare they

Complaint sent now.

His apology is shit. The offence caused by his words pales compared the offence caused by his actions.