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RTB I can understand you saying that, but it is not what the policy documents say from any of the LSCBs I looked at. In fact it indicates that as soon as a concealed pregnancy is revealed a referral should be made to CSC. It might not be what Birthrights say, but they're not the ones making the guidelines.

After all, you can't know if there's a pattern of behaviour if you know nothing about a family and there has been no assessment done during pregnancy (by HCPs).

Exactly Aargh, I started another thread because I didn't like the other one
WTF lol

Birthrights indicates in their factsheet that HCPs may make a referral if they believe there is a risk to the unborn baby. They also say that they shouldn't do it 'just' because a person has declined antenatal care.

Indeed refusal to engage with antenatal care or whilst giving birth CAN be PART of a referral if it helps to demonstrate a PATTERN of behaviour which gives cause for concern.

But as a singular reason, no.

At least I get to respond to Zebra who seems somewhat confused about the law and the way CSC works.

There are guidelines that govern how information must be shared to safeguard children. Local Safeguarding Children's Boards will have their own policy documents around how to handle a concealed pregnancy (what it is called when a person does not access antenatal care or does not tell health professionals she is pregnant). Every one I have looked at lists not accessing antenatal care as a reason for not only a referral but often a child-protection enquiry assessment.

This assessment would look at the health needs of the baby and how these are being met in pregnancy (or not) among other things.

These guidelines are based on legislation, they are legal.

Birthrights indicates in their factsheet that HCPs may make a referral if they believe there is a risk to the unborn baby. They also say that they shouldn't do it 'just' because a person has declined antenatal care.

However, there is no evidence on this factsheet to back up their claim and if the LSCB has that as their policy then the professionals in that area must follow those guidelines. Whether Birthrights want them to or not.

The woman is free to make a complaint to the healthcare setting or to the LA or even write to the LSCB and ask them to change the policy, but they are under no obligation to do so if they feel it is important to safeguard children.

They don't just pull these guidelines out of their ass.

You started another thread and in the same breath you are glad the other one filled up because you aren’t enjoying it? I think you’re lying again. I’m done, whatever.