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A word that is creeping into use here on the Feminism boards

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JellySlice · 16/07/2019 16:46

'Genderism'

Why are we using it?

Like 'transwoman' to the newcomers, 'genderism' is an unclear word. It took me a while to work out that 'genderism' referred to trans ideology and not to gender critical.

Why are we using unclear language? We know how damaging unclear language can be. We only use transwoman because the clearer descriptor, the one involving the biologically correct noun, is banned on MN.

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BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 16/07/2019 18:41

gender is harmful to everyone

i think people who don't understand that are seriously misguided

i'm good with genderism, thanks

stealthsquirrelnutkin · 16/07/2019 18:40

It has never seemed unclear to me. Genderism is when weird and unscientific beliefs are trumpeted as the one true faith. With the result that anyone who dares to doubt, or question the blatantly false articles of faith must be denounced as a heretic, shunned, fired from their jobs, burnt to death in a grease fire, kerb stomped, or raped with a barbed wire wrapped baseball bat by the faithful.

JellySlice · 16/07/2019 18:39

And to name the neo-religion 'Transgenderism'?

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JellySlice · 16/07/2019 18:39

I agree that it's a useful word to describe the aspects of the beliefs about gender that aren't necessarily to do with transing, like pink for girls etc.

But both groups, the trans ideologists and the gender critical, use the word gender extensively, so both could appear to be 'genderists'.

Wouldn't 'Transgenderists' be a clearer way to describe the believers and practisers of this neo-religion?

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BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 16/07/2019 18:37

yup, I like genderism to refer to the weird collection of beliefs held by those who believe gender is innate and edifying

I'll still be using it - sorry OP

LangCleg · 16/07/2019 18:19

I use 'Genderism' as a term for the neo religion that teaches the gender is an innate part of the human sexed experience.

Yes. I use it because it's a belief system that reifies "gender".

NotTerfNorCis · 16/07/2019 18:15

I find 'genderism' useful. It's the opposite of gender critical. To me, it means believing in innate gender, and that this innate gender is more important than your biological sex. I see it as synonymous with 'trans ideology', but 'trans ideology' might be mistaken for an attack on trans people, while 'genderism' wouldn't be.

Jellylegsni · 16/07/2019 17:07

Speaking of words and terms, one that I don't like and think is cause for confusion is "gender non-conforming". I think it has similar problems to "non-binary" as a concept. However, I haven't got an alternative word to describe those who very obviously do not live up to gender roles and I accept one is needed so I try not to dwell on it.

I just used the word "genderist" in another post which I think goes with "genderism". It's a word I've been using for about 5 years. To me it's a short way of describing those who subscribe to the idea of innate gender and all that entails. I didn't think it was confusing - though I wouldn't use it if speaking to someone new to the subject I admit. Hmm.

FloralBunting · 16/07/2019 16:57

I use 'Genderism' as a term for the neo religion that teaches the gender is an innate part of the human sexed experience. You can use Trans Ideology in the same way, but Genderism for me covers the aspects of the beliefs about gender that aren't necessarily to do with transing, like pink for girls etc. even though trans ideology is completely based in gender. It's a fairly basic idea in feminist thought that gender is a negative idea. Some people like the term GC or gender critical. I don't really care, most of these words are shorthand for a larger set of ideas that need unpacking to a certain degree.

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