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Two unrelated newspaper reports

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Baguetteaboutit · 15/07/2019 15:19

That have absolutely nothing to do with one another but I'm just putting them here, for later.

www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/middlesbrough-tory-councillor-appear-court-16586889.amp#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

And

www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/gender-neutral-toilets-trial-backed-16466368

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yetanotherusernameAgain · 13/04/2022 15:03

Found guilty (April 2022) - sentencing on 16 May 2022:

www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/ex-conservative-councillor-david-smith-23678572

UlcerativePoliteness · 13/04/2022 15:00

What a shock. Who’d have thought that dodgy predatory men would back an ideology that breaks down safeguards?

How many times has this thing that never happens happened?

CompleteGinasaur · 13/04/2022 14:57

@ZebrasAreBras

The esteemed Mayor's reaction. Because of course.
Personally I go with a 'Male till proven Female' approach..
WarriorN · 13/04/2022 14:47

Bump, found guilty.

Comingtoatownnearyou · 20/07/2019 20:50

I am aware that this is a Catholic publication but it seems it has crossed the pond.

www.lifesitenews.com/mobile/news/uk-politician-who-lobbied-for-gender-neutral-toilets-charged-with-child-sex-abuse

The comments though Shock no holding back there.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 18/07/2019 15:20

But we can do nothing. I just read a twitter thread where a woman asked why there was a male attendant in the changing rooms. When she was told the rooms were unisex she dug a bit more and it turns out that if a man wants to try on female clothes that’s ok - as long as he was genuinely wanting to try on woman’s clothes. So what’s the assistants are mind readers now? Can you imaging some Saturday teen staff tackling someone like this in a changing room - they tend to be self rightious bullies who ‘know their rights’ and would scream ‘I’m gong to get you fired!!!!’ And ‘call me ma’am!!!!!!’

Juells · 18/07/2019 12:10

How many looked at the photo in earlier reports and their alarm bells rang?

Yes, I checked back on the earlier thread, about him campaigning for gender-neutral toilets, before this news broke, and the alarm about his appearance came up several times.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 18/07/2019 08:08

How many looked at the photo in earlier reports and their alarm bells rang?

Women generally have a decent internal alarm - we have to. From childhood we are wary of people (usually men) who give off predatory vibes. Men don’t seem to have this or ignore it.

We just can’t afford to be ‘nice’ and go out of our ways to not offend people. What can we do though?

The creature who murdered those children and teacher in Dunblane had a reputation locally as a man you wouldn’t want around your kids. When he did this no one seemed to say ‘I’m shocked it was him, he was a nice/quiet man/good to his mum’ - it was more ‘well sooner or later...’ but nothing could be done. What can be done?

KatvonHostileExtremist · 18/07/2019 07:54

evolvepolitics.com/tory-councillor-who-called-benefit-claimants-pond-life-charged-with-9-child-sex-offences/

He is quite the most awful man. Why anyone would listen to him in any capacity is beyond me.

Juells · 16/07/2019 12:27

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo
The disregard they show for people with disabilities,disgusting.The one bloody toilet they get and it will be changed to a free for all they should be ashamed of themselfs. How selfish do you have to be to think that up.

Very little risk of them using those loos, I'd say. What affirmation and validation would there be in that?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 16/07/2019 11:22

And no one seemed to make a big stink, or roll back their recommendations. Like giving a greedy kid the keys to the sweetie shop.

ZebrasAreBras · 16/07/2019 11:09

LordProfFekko - that article Shock

Rennie was the chief executive of LGBT Youth Scotland, which offers advice to young gay and lesbian people.

These men are absolute predators - jumping on the LGBT/TRA bandwagon - and yet we're called bigots for pointing this out!

HumberElla · 16/07/2019 10:12

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-48647089

And here.

HumberElla · 16/07/2019 10:06

Also a reminder that one very well known Coffee chain’s all sex toilets have been in the news recently after hidden cameras were found by an astute cleaner. But ‘very little fuss’ in Cllr’s view eh?

HumberElla · 16/07/2019 10:04

following Tueday's meeting, Cllr Smith said: "This morning I had a constructive meeting with the mayor on the topic of gender-neutral toilets. "I very much look forward to working with the mayor to deliver a positive environment for all of the citizens in Middlesbrough. Over the last 24 hours, I have listened and read the public's concerns. But I maintain the view that gender-neutral toilets does not increase the threat to public safety. In fact, gender neutral toilets already exist in Middlesbrough such as Starbucks to very little fuss."This is all about creating a positive environment for everyone to use public facilities without fear or humiliation." Cllr Smith's campaign has been backed by LGBT charity Hart Gables

I wonder who at ‘Hart Gables’ is backing the honourable Cllr who is currently protesting his innocence of multiple child sex offences?

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 16/07/2019 10:04

Sorry I read it now,disnt see it the first time.

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 16/07/2019 09:59

Humber who said that?

HumberElla · 16/07/2019 09:55

Over the last 24 hours, I have listened and read the public's concerns. But I maintain the view that gender-neutral toilets does not increase the threat to public safety

Says the man, consulting with males about what they want, not listening to women raising concerns and pointing to evidence.

Whatafuckingsurprise

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 16/07/2019 09:46

Dave Smith, the accused, is on the Children and Young People's Learning Scrutiny panel at the council.
That's not a surprise at all now, and I'm sure David has a place under that ever expanding umbrella,which really should be called a shield.

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 16/07/2019 09:44

The disregard they show for people with disabilities,disgusting.The one bloody toilet they get and it will be changed to a free for all they should be ashamed of themselfs. How selfish do you have to be to think that up.

Popchyk · 16/07/2019 09:25

Nah.

More likely Tiffany Smith or Demi-Rose Smith.

HorsewithnoRegretsNonJeNeRegre · 16/07/2019 08:07

I bet that Dave Smith will be Angela smith before long.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 16/07/2019 08:03

Unfettered access to women. You don’t see many women pushing for unisex loos do you?

They did try to have these on the 70s (in a ‘let it all hang out, everyone is equal, hippdippy’ kind of way). It didn’t take off and women were generally just a bit disgusted at the prospect - not scared.

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 16/07/2019 08:01

Love the comments. Grin

You really don’t have to think too hard to imagine who wants “gender neutral” toilets and why.

It’s not the long queues is it?

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 16/07/2019 07:16

I am not saying that the person in question is guilty but I saw this on twitter today and it made me think...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-15790605