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If transwomen are born in the wrong body, how can their penis be female?

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AlessandraAsteriti · 15/07/2019 13:04

Does anyone know the answer to this?

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AlwaysTawnyOwl · 17/07/2019 12:59

Saying that you were assigned the wrong gender at birth and that most people don’t have a sense of gender and are therefore non-binary is progress of sorts. It’s saying that you want to sign up to a set of stereotypes of what women are. I heard a transwoman speak last year. What struck me was the constant emphasis on how he said everyone thought what a caring person (pre transition) they were. So men can’t be caring too? Another video showed a late transitioner transwoman saying that they had tried to be masculine - learning to fly/boxing/driving fast cars but none of it was for them. Who says men all have to be like Bruce Willis? Why do they think that all women are obsessed with clothes and makeup? None of this is reality.

Michelleoftheresistance · 16/07/2019 17:18

When a transwoman is on hormones her penis thinks its a clitoris.

The level of delusional thinking is …. well. I just keep hearing Frankie Howerd murmuring about it being wicked to mock the afflicted.

Rosemary46 · 16/07/2019 07:11

Thanks for explaining @FloralBunting Grin

pombear · 16/07/2019 01:08

Well we have some explanation here of (some) men who identify as trans:

twitter.com/JaneGuernsey/status/1150889656575320065

Jane screenshots Ysandril's assertion that cis females have a clitoris. Which is basically a penis. When a transwoman is on hormones her penis thinks its a clitoris. I can attest to this. It is true. Until I go to SRS that is what my body thinks because it has been biologicall altered through estrogen to become so.

A new twist on 'men think with their dicks'. Now repurposed as 'men's dicks think for themselves'!

One of my favourite replies in the thread (C & Pd it but can't find the link):

Lorenco

An organ strictly for pleasure is the same as a multi functional piss pump Hmmm, got it.

MagneticSingularity · 15/07/2019 19:56

Grimbles Angels.... almost but not quite good enough.

Its shut up and diaf, TERF.

Nope, still not quite right - it's:

"Shut up and die in a grease fire, TERF"

AlessandraAsteriti · 15/07/2019 19:31

@AncientLights
Grin

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DeRigueurMortis · 15/07/2019 19:07

Because they say so.

That's it.

There's zero logic to be applied here and searching for it it an exercise in futility.

That's why TRA's enjoy an echo chamber on social media and hate FWR so much.

The "claims" simply don't make sense.

NataleeY · 15/07/2019 19:00

It isn't. Full stop

DodoPatrol · 15/07/2019 16:41

the feeling inside the person's head will control the other person's experience

That's the whole problem in a nutshell, really.

FloralBunting · 15/07/2019 16:28

If you have no sense of inner gender and therefore reject any of the myriad trans labels, that is a clear indication you are 'cis'.

If you were not, your gender incongruence would be such that you simply couldn't miss your gender identity. If it's undetectable to you, that's proof that you have one. Absence of evidence is complete proof, just as the presence of a penis on a female body is proof of the female penis. Shh, stop thinking. Just smile and nod.

Grimbles · 15/07/2019 16:23

Angels.... almost but not quite good enough.

Its shut up and diaf, TERF.

BickerinBrattle · 15/07/2019 15:51

After the transwoman revolves through two, possibly three, epicycles, one can see that the penis, in the faint light of the sun, takes on a pink cast and is therefore female. The balls becomes the moons to the pink penis, and as we all know, moons are female.

AngelsSins · 15/07/2019 15:32

Ummmm, I think the answer is “Shut up TERF”?

Do I win?

HumberElla · 15/07/2019 15:23

"some vaginas are 'outies' (penis shaped)

God yes, I’d forgotten about this one!

Michelleoftheresistance · 15/07/2019 15:12

I've seen it framed in disability type terms (you can't discriminate against me being naked in this changing room, it's not my fault I was born with my vulva shaped like a penis and balls) and also framed as "some vaginas are 'outies' (penis shaped) and obviously my lady dick will feel very different to any male dick" (somehow, magically, because the feeling inside the person's head will control the other person's experience.... which tells you a great deal about the personality type and psychology behind the speaker).

If you stick with the basic theory of 'I win, you lose' applied to everything, it makes sense. There are certain personality conditions where it's seen as perfectly sensible to present conflicting views and facts because they all serve the same feeling/purpose . Externally and objectively it's baffling, contradictory and wholly illogical but to the person if it serves their personal internal purpose then it all holds together. Whether the general public should be expected to understand this, and do the labour of catering to it without training or being able to charge by the hour for providing the service, is another matter.

AncientLights · 15/07/2019 15:07

Ah, but surely the female penis is quite different from the male variety. Who was it who wrote about it being like a shy butterfly? Someone lovingly described the lady dick as having a better smell than its male counterpart and also a better 'mouthfeel' - yuck. Then there was that Avery Edison (or is it Edison Avery?) who waxed lyrical about a woman who wouldn't have sex with Avery but if she did she would realised how a womanly penis would feel so very different inside her.

Yep, no logic, no sense, no nothing.

EggWrap · 15/07/2019 13:53

It's female flesh but in a form not truly fitting with how their brain wishes the body to be formed.
That's what I'd say, if I were trying to stay inside the 'rules' of all this nonsense.

AlessandraAsteriti · 15/07/2019 13:50

It seems the wrong body thing is mostly designed to get girls to have a double mastectomy and hysterectomy. Men get to keep their dick and become women with a sprinkle of glitter by mermaids. Can you tell I am pissed off?

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sakura184 · 15/07/2019 13:49

This thread title 😂

northernresister · 15/07/2019 13:49

TRA's have never had logic ever, changes from person to person.
Always has.

Aaarrgghhh · 15/07/2019 13:46

Magic.

HumberElla · 15/07/2019 13:45

The so called ‘logic’ TRAs use changes depending on the audience they are trying to engage.

If audience is schools then they will state children are ‘born in wrong body’

If audience is lesbians then ‘female penis therefore u r transphobic if u don’t sleep with me’

If audience is sparkly award panel looking at your high finance career success then ‘female on the day I was nominated for woman’s award’

Consistency in TRA logic is so 2012. Keep up!

SarahTancredi · 15/07/2019 13:33

And why if transition suddenly means their previously typical male behaviour instantly changes then into weak vulnerable women incapable of harm then why dont they hand out dresses instead of jumpsuits in prisons ?

SarahTancredi · 15/07/2019 13:32

Also if there is such a thing as a lady brain why are brain scans not part of the dx process?

Michelleoftheresistance · 15/07/2019 13:30

The whole basis of this movement rests on reality being optional and trumped by personal feelings/wishes, and language meaning whatever the speaker wants it to mean. Boundaries of any kind (including truth, facts and basic critical thinking) are hate.

Think of a toddler's response to being told no or being asked to share or wait and you're basically there at the heart of trans rights activism.

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