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It's International Non Binary Day

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Doyoumind · 14/07/2019 15:16

So Twitter tells me.

I see posts from people I can vaguely understand are non binary but am totally confused by many posts of people presenting very much in line with the sterotypical gender related to their sex and saying they don't all use 'they' pronouns. So what the hell is non binary about them?

Genuine question and not intended to be goady. I don't get it. Well, I get that it might appeal to someone trying to be something other than ordinary.

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BickerinBrattle · 14/07/2019 16:01

Responding to Always

DpWm · 14/07/2019 16:01

It's nonsense.
A male non-binary person is male
A female non-binary person is female.
The human race has a sex binary, get over it.

BickerinBrattle · 14/07/2019 16:00

Alpha-Centauri

Doyoumind · 14/07/2019 15:58

It seems to be all encompassing.

I'm concerned women who would have been called butch lesbians in the past identify as NB as it's kind of easier.

Some people simply look trans but perhaps it's only a part time thing. I just don't understand why it needs a label or a day.

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AlwaysComingHome · 14/07/2019 15:53

How is non-binary a sexual orientation?

Who the hell are they oriented towards?

MIdgebabe · 14/07/2019 15:52

Well they could be gender different without it being how they look. Perhaps they are good at phsyics and like cricket?

AlwaysComingHome · 14/07/2019 15:51

It is logically impossible to be non-binary if there isn’t a binary to define non-binary against, thus creating another binary.

Doyoumind · 14/07/2019 15:50

Imnobody that's because someone has dared to call them he or she instead of they, which is a particularly and literally violent crime.

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Doyoumind · 14/07/2019 15:48

Thanks Bickerin!

Maybe I'm old but they are either gender conforming or gender non conforming and it doesn't make them special. How do the LGBs put up with this nonsense alongside real life issues?

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Imnobody4 · 14/07/2019 15:48

According to Stonewall:
Two in fve LGBT people (39 per cent) who identify as
non-binary have experienced a hate crime or incident because
of their sexual orientation and/or gender identity in the last
year compared to one in fve LGBT people (19 per cent) who
identify as male or female

Being non binary has obviously won the victimhood prize.

BickerinBrattle · 14/07/2019 15:40

Non-binary exists to create a new binary: those who are non-binary and those who aren’t demanding their individual subjectivities be privileged in a neoliberal, market-based political system over the material realities of the sex-based oppression of the female sex class who are the means of reproduction in a capitalist society that requires the reproduction of consumers and workers to further the continued expansion that are the raison d’etre of capitalist economies.

OrchidInTheSun · 14/07/2019 15:31

It's a way for heterosexual people to feel special and victimised

HermioneWeasley · 14/07/2019 15:30

It’s utter narcissism and attention seeking. And an excellent way for woke blokes to be able to call women TERFs and demand lesbians sleep with them.

Doyoumind · 14/07/2019 15:28

I get that but there a lot of people (mostly young women) saying you don't have to be androgenous or 'they' and posting pictures of themselves as dress and make up wearing women Hmm

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MIdgebabe · 14/07/2019 15:20

None binary Do not fit gender norms but accept that gender norms are truth, fundamentally driven , innate so you are therefore odd if you do not fit them

Contrast with

Gc do not fit gender norms but do not accept that gender norms are truth, fundamentally driven, innate, so therefore you are normal if you do not fit them.