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It's International Non Binary Day

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Doyoumind · 14/07/2019 15:16

So Twitter tells me.

I see posts from people I can vaguely understand are non binary but am totally confused by many posts of people presenting very much in line with the sterotypical gender related to their sex and saying they don't all use 'they' pronouns. So what the hell is non binary about them?

Genuine question and not intended to be goady. I don't get it. Well, I get that it might appeal to someone trying to be something other than ordinary.

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Fraggling · 14/07/2019 16:50

The non binary and 82 genders stuff is very much the new tribal thing, complete with different ways of looking, as per music tribes when I was young, and it all would be harmless if it wasn't for all the stuff that goes with it that we all know all about.

Without all the other stuff it would be strandard teens with silly hair complaining that no one understands them which is fine and totally expected.

LassOfFyvie · 14/07/2019 16:48

Ithink I've said it here somewhere before but it's the concept of 'coming out' that is so mystifying and seems offensive compared to lesbians and gays who really have to come out

I also don't understand it compared to coming out, if that is the right expression, as trans. I'm utterly puzzled at Fox and Ulla saying they are non- binary. They pass very well as a trans man and a trans woman.

shepcountthebloodysheep · 14/07/2019 16:45

Can anybody genuinely explain ' i’m a genderless trans man' this - I'm confused by genderless and man in the same description rather than being a GF.

Bespin · 14/07/2019 16:44

If trans is an illness we should worry about it’s causes and ensure people get good treatment. And I see no evidence that we know what good treatment is in general.

have you come from the 70s or something it's not been a illness in a long time. but it can and does require treatment but not always

BickerinBrattle · 14/07/2019 16:42

But you see, Always, in asking that question you’re forcing a binary choice. Non-binary means never having having to choose which gate to go through. It means choosing ALL the gates.

sackrifice · 14/07/2019 16:42

So I'm sure a lot of people on here are supportive of non binary people and welcome this day.

Almost everyone on the planet is non-fucking-binary.

They aren't all narcissists though, this is one way of finding out who is.

DpWm · 14/07/2019 16:42

Genderfree is not believing in gender at all.
Non-Binary is a gender, believers insisting on "They/them" pronouns etc.
The two would have nothing in common to talk about.

But yeah, you're still a male or female non binary person. Or an intersex non binary person.

MIdgebabe · 14/07/2019 16:40

If trans is an illness we should worry about it’s causes and ensure people get good treatment. And I see no evidence that we know what good treatment is in general

If it’s not an ill illnees you do not need treatemnt

Bespin · 14/07/2019 16:37

some trans people did and some probably still do we are not one group of people and we don't just have one view. hence you get gender critical trans woman.

HappyPunky · 14/07/2019 16:36

Genderfree isn't utter guff. Babies in the womb are genderfree. Mine is 3 and doesn't have a gender identity.

HappyPunky · 14/07/2019 16:33

So transwomen questioned the validity of other people's identities?

Bespin · 14/07/2019 16:28

because poeple don't like change and some trans woman have said there is only one way to be trans. also the system expected you to identify in the binary to get treatment.

AlwaysComingHome · 14/07/2019 16:28

Alpha-Centauri

As in ‘small furry creatures from...’ in The Hitch-Hiker’s Guide to the Galaxy or the hermaphroditic hexapods from Doctor Who*?

A nerd needs to know those things.

Bespin · 14/07/2019 16:26

Accepting of what? Non-binary is utter guff.

what like gender free? how dare you say that lol

HappyPunky · 14/07/2019 16:26

Bespin why do trans people hate new additions under the trans umbrella?

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 14/07/2019 16:23

Accepting of what? Non-binary is utter guff.

Doyoumind · 14/07/2019 16:22

I think I've said it here somewhere before but it's the concept of 'coming out' that is so mystifying and seems offensive compared to lesbians and gays who really have to come out. "Hey Mum and Dad, I'm going to wear gender non-conforming clothes. Please support me in this."

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Bespin · 14/07/2019 16:20

that's fine, non binary people did get a lot of hate from binary people in the trans community for quite a number of years but people learned and understood more and And became more excepting.

HappyPunky · 14/07/2019 16:17

Bespin genderfree people don't have a gender identity at all and get hate from other people who are under the trans umbrella because of it.

CantspellWontspell · 14/07/2019 16:16

Because there are boring old “normal” people and mysterious special people but they are indistinguishable by sight so we need a label for them.

I would have gone for Narcissistic Bores but apparently Non-Binary has a better ring to it.

Pot-ay-toes, Pot-ah-toes.

shepcountthebloodysheep · 14/07/2019 16:14

Can somebody explain this please:

'i’m a genderless trans man'

Bespin · 14/07/2019 16:11

Well gender free people could always support there non binary friends, or they can always orginise there own day if they really want one. I would imagine Truely gender free people would have a lot to talk about with non binary people if you are both not seeing the traditional binaried system in the way most people do. So I'm sure a lot of people on here are supportive of non binary people and welcome this day.

LangCleg · 14/07/2019 16:06

How can you all be so dismissive when there are works of stunning art created around this historic day?

HappyPunky · 14/07/2019 16:05

If non binary people are under the trans umbrella but get their own day, why isn't there a genderfree day?

DpWm · 14/07/2019 16:03

Oops calling us "the human race" is racist.
I just meant "humans"