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It's International Non Binary Day

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Doyoumind · 14/07/2019 15:16

So Twitter tells me.

I see posts from people I can vaguely understand are non binary but am totally confused by many posts of people presenting very much in line with the sterotypical gender related to their sex and saying they don't all use 'they' pronouns. So what the hell is non binary about them?

Genuine question and not intended to be goady. I don't get it. Well, I get that it might appeal to someone trying to be something other than ordinary.

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BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 14/07/2019 21:35

it's international non binary day

i am celebrating by wearing an outfit that is half black and half white, and by doing a mime to demonstrate how incredibly interesting I am

DrSusan · 14/07/2019 21:24

@alessandraasteriti Exactly.

AlessandraAsteriti · 14/07/2019 20:51

I do not mind teenagers spouting this bollocks, it is their prerogative. But why is everyone designing policy around this bollocks?

DtPeabodysLoosePants · 14/07/2019 20:07

Climate change and brexit would be good for them to focus on.

DtPeabodysLoosePants · 14/07/2019 20:02

Young people today need a cause to occupy them. Can you imagine this nonsense in earlier decades when they had things like wars to worry about? Nuclear power? I think my dad was onto something when he said they needed to bring back national service!

MIdgebabe · 14/07/2019 19:55

I think you may find the suicide stats rather over stated by a factor of around 100. Think the times did a rummage to get some actual numbers.

DrSusan · 14/07/2019 19:52

Do these people never get bored thinking about themselves all the time?

MrsJamin · 14/07/2019 19:39

Check this blog post out if you want to see how ridiculous it's got. In the attached picture, this is what the author says he is compared to all the other splodges in terms of a scale of masculine - feminine (left to right) and intensity (top to bottom). SUCH narcissistic bollocks.

It's International Non Binary Day
Doyoumind · 14/07/2019 19:09

Love a comment I saw on that Stonewall thread: Oh I thought it was Sue Pollard for a moment Grin

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Gingerkittykat · 14/07/2019 18:57

In the interview with Piers Morgan
"why do 48% of trans kids attempt suicide (or are suicidal)"

Implication it's all your fault, give us what we want or we will kill ourselves. Classic abuser tactic.

Also very good question. Why are so many trans/ non binary people so disturbed? Trans is apparently no longer a mental disorder but yet so many trans kids are harming themselves.

Jellylegsni · 14/07/2019 18:57

They (punny) want to get non-binary recognised as a category on legal documentation in the UK.

Everyone is "non-binary". It is a ridiculous concept. Nobody lives up 100% to the stereotypes associated with their sex.

HappyPunky · 14/07/2019 18:42

I watched that. I didnt realise that the character was meant to be trans until they mentioned the drugs being taken. I just saw a girl. I thought it would have been a good opportunity to go into detail on what led that character to it.

Eaudear · 14/07/2019 18:40

The thing that gets me about 'non-binary' is that it just reinforces the sexist, regressive gender binary. By declaring themselves 'non-binary' these people who think and are told that they are so woke, so progressive, so modern, are just propping up gender stereotypes which are damaging for everyone.

Doyoumind · 14/07/2019 18:37

Not sure if anyone has watched The OA. There's a transboy in it, played by a transboy. In the second series this transboy also played a girl. I thought it was weird they agreed to. Then I saw a video of this transboy as themself saying sometimes they liked to wear jewellery and make up to play with gender. It's all so bloody confusing.

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NotTerfNorCis · 14/07/2019 18:27

Just had a quick look through on Twitter. It's mostly young women, some who look a bit androgynous, some who don't. The relatively few young men have lipstick, blue or pink hair, and chippy attitudes. It is so obviously a youth trend.

AlwaysComingHome · 14/07/2019 18:23

Perhaps you’ve just been married for thirty years.

I think they need to get a cat.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 14/07/2019 18:20
Grin
It's International Non Binary Day
Deliriumoftheendless · 14/07/2019 18:18

I suspect Neil Gaiman is trying to dodge accusations of transphobia for the bit in Sandman- A Game Of You where Wanda (a trans character) isn’t allowed into a magical realm with the others as she’s not actually a woman and is explicitly referred to as a man.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 14/07/2019 18:18

I was looking at that earlier. The responses are not going Stonewall's way.

Imnobody4 · 14/07/2019 18:14

Stonewall has completely lost the plot. Watch the video
Check out @stonewalluk’s Tweet: twitter.com/stonewalluk/status/1150329084695797760?s=09

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 14/07/2019 18:12

If Terry Pratchett had been spared his awful, hideously unfair illness, I wonder what he'd have made of all this. I think he'd have been compassionate but he was so good at seeing through bullshit of all kinds. Neil Gaiman less so.

AlwaysComingHome · 14/07/2019 18:09

Good Omens is a brilliant adaptation but Aziraphale was always gay - as much as a supernatural being without genitalia can be said to have an orientation: he’s described as a ‘Southern pansy’, he learns to dance in what is clearly a club for Victorian homosexuals, etc.

Crowley, not so much. His purpose is to tempt. He plays on other people’s desires.

Doyoumind · 14/07/2019 18:09

Grin indeed. Self obsessed idiots.

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LassOfFyvie · 14/07/2019 18:08

I'm a bit puzzled, though, by tweets Neil Gaiman is getting about the relationship between Crawley and Aziraphale

I'm puzzled by tweets comparing Crawley and Aziraphale, favourably, to Rosencrantz and Guildenstern.

Rozencrantz and Guildenstern were sycophantic but ultimately false friends to Hamlet and spies for Claudius.

Lancelottie · 14/07/2019 18:07

Isn’t that what normal people call ‘having a friend’?