Why are bras so ridiculously uncomfortable? And phones and...

AND normal people not models

Look up Boob or Bust on Facebook, it's a totally different way of measuring and has a wealth of info about where to find the kind of bras you want.

Molke are the most comfortable for me. And no bloody lace . And the fabric flexes so you can wear the same size even in that pre Menstrual swelling stage . Possibly female designers. Their awesome space bra is sold out though

Bras are inherently uncomfortable....even ones that 'fit' you perfectly.

You need to go to bravissimo. For fitting at least.

The Panache Clara is the most comfy bra I've ever owned. I have it in about 8 colours (also available online for much less than bravissimo sell it)

But totally with you on the phone thing!

Oh and I have very small hands but I like big phones as I can see the screen better. I have an iPhone 8 Plus! I don't find it too big at all.

I used to have small boobs sand could wear pretty much any old bra from anywhere. I now have mahoosive boobs (due to illness and weight gain) and getting a bra that fits, is comfortable, and adequately supportive is a nightmare (and bloody expensive). I recently had to get 2 new bras and I literally had to buy about 20 different bras of different types and sizes until I found the ones I have now (Freya Decps if those are any good to you - nice comfy material for summer imo).

Agree that the vast majority of bras are not made out of comfy materials suitable for summer I used to always buy cotton bras for summer when I had small boobs but there seem to be very few cotton bras for bigger boobed women. Maybe we need a campaign!!

It seems to be very tricky to get bras to fit. They need to be just right around the band when you have bigger boobs. Too big and there's no support and too small and they are too uncomfortable and have to come off after a couple of hours. Obviously they also need to fit across the cup, not cause bulging by the armpit and not dig in anywhere. There are really feats of engineering!!!

One tip I do have is to order a large number of bras and take them home and wear them with the labels on around the house for a few hours. That really helps to know if they definitely fit. All the bras I've had fitted in bravissimo have not fitted when worn for a longer period and have had to go back.

Since I've lost weight and my boobs have shrunk (thankfully) I've been wearing tshirt bras from Primark, they're pretty comfortable, don't have wires or any scratchy bits or bows. I 'm never going back to underwires either, along with high heels, makeup and other 'stuff'
Never thought about phones being too big, I'm another person with big hands. Though generally if smartphones magically cease to exist I don't think I would be too upset about it.
I never get the thing about pockets, I never put stuff in them anyway, apart from coat pockets.

Just for info - cos, Arket, andotherstories, j crew and uniqlo all make women’s clothes with pockets in as routine.

Doritos jars of Salsa are built for giant man hands only.

Oh and while I am moaning- car seat belts: why do they always slide up over my bust and try to throttle me? Even when I have adjusted the sliding thing at shoulder height?

I can't find comfy bras - I want cotton, not too fussy, supportive, non wired preferably in several colours (white, beige, navy, lilac would be my choice) which won't break the bank, and which fit a traditionally built grandma.
Oh, and which don't drop to bits after a couple of washes.

M&S used to do them, but the quality is now shite and the nice cotton ones have vanished.

Argymargy your day not gone well?
If it wouldn't get deleted I would tell you to fuck right off with your unhelpful attitude.

@ArgyMargy love your approach there. If you shout "everything's fine" loudly enough everyone will stop experiencing any problems.

argymargy has problems, so has come on here to make other women feel shit. Ta mate

@ArgyMargy why are you being so rude?

There simply isn't an android phone small enough for me. I've got a 4 year old Sony Xperia compact and they're not made anymore. My phone is broken in many ways but I've failed to find anything to replace it. Really pisses me off.

I hate all bras, I've been properly measured and I only wear matronly bras now to avoid skinny straps digging in. Bloody Doreen bra - my breasts enter the room two minutes before I do.
All I want is a soft rounded looking breast without underwires, no double boob syndrome and no skinny straps.

You sound barking mad @Melroses with your menopausal duct irritations!!!

I have massive tits so make sure I get very well fitted bras that provide a full days support at work. But bras are uncomfortable and I resent being forced in to physical discomfort, sometimes quite substantial, for no benifit to myself and purely to satisfy a society which is squemish about actual womens bodies. Id love it if it was accaptable to go braless.