"Delay to self-ID puts trans people’s sexual health at risk, charities warn"

What’s happened to Jazz makes me simultaneously sad and angry. In one episode Jazz asked whether an orgasm was like a sneeze, and yet it’s apparently important for this young adult with such a lack of libido that they have NO tangible understanding of sexual desire to have their penis inverted at great risk and pain. The only reason is to be penetrated to please a possible future partner, one who will apparently have so little concern for Jazz’s well being that it won’t bother them that Jazz is getting nothing out of the experience at all. And this is a future that Jazz’s parents and doctors all think is the best possible outcome. It’s fucked up on every possible level.

Isn't that because globally transwomen are often sex workers in countries not known for their modern approaches to sexual health?

Globally trans women are 49 times more likely to have HIV than the general population, the World Health Organisation has said.

lets unpick that sentence, might it be because of underlying undiagnosed mental health problems-unless those are addressed, some transwomen will engage in risky sexual activity, for a multitude of reasons.

I can understand (a bit) if someone was so dysphoric about their body that they wanted to remove their penis but I don’t understand the need for a “deep vagina” It can’t provide that person with pleasure. The person could have a vulva of sorts fashioned, but you’re right, a “deep vagina” is actually just a lifetime of dilatation, infection, smell, washing, all so someone can put their cock in it and pleasure themselves somehow. 🤢

Yet I bet when these charities talk about sexual health, they never discuss THAT

"fear of misgendering and a lack of compassionate support prevents them from accessing basic sexual health services, including contraception and STI prevention"

Oh fgs. Try being a middle aged woman (the old fashioned boring cunty kind) wanting to access hrt and then come back to me and talk about lack of compassoinate support.

Jazz appears to be pinning all their hopes on having a deep vagina. Presumably thinking that the sex they will have will be meaningful? How will it be? And as for the doctor archly admonishing Jazz with 'we women don't talk about the depth of our vaginas, you know'.

From what I've read Jazz appears to have no concept of what a vagina actually is.

This is a common theme amongst adult trans ideologists who all too often seem to view a vagina as nothing more than a fuck hole, but it is unconscionable to push children into these procedures without ever explaining to them that they will NEVER have a vagina (or penis) in any meaningful sense.

No surgeon can make a vagina. No surgeon can make a penis. No responsible surgeon would lie about these facts.

Datun

It’s not a derail. It’s very relevant to point out the horrendous hypocrisy regarding sexual health. I can’t go on too much about this for Jazz as I find it utterly heartbreaking.

Of course sex workers in South America - female, male, trans whatever - shouldn’t be dying of HIV which is now a liveable almost curable disease. And equally western children shouldn’t be committed to a life of zero sexual dysfunction on the utterly false and evidence-devoid premise that it will be the fix for their mental health.

Turboteddy

Heartbreakingly true, I'm so angry at all the people supporting this.

The entire article is one scandalous utterance after another.

“Jazz as a medical case is really a conundrum because her puberty was blocked so well that she didn’t get growth of her genitals in a way that allows us as a surgeon to use a conventional approach,” said Dr. Bowers,

I don't even know where to start. It's the doctors own fucking fault that as the genitalia didn't grow, jazz never had an orgasm and never will. And they are now telling Jazz that intimacy during sex is important. When they have deprived jazz of any fucking chance of having any.

Jazz appears to be pinning all their hopes on having a deep vagina. Presumably thinking that the sex they will have will be meaningful? How will it be? And as for the doctor archly admonishing Jazz with 'we women don't talk about the depth of our vaginas, you know'.

Ugh.

Sorry. Probably a bit of a derail. But jazz is the living proof of the catastrophic effect of everything they are pushing for. It's unconscionable and indefensible.

Is this true? How can anyone allow that to happen and sleep at night.

Absolutely. Jazz went on puberty blockers young. This meant the penis, testes and prostate never went through sexual maturation. The testes were then removed, and the prepubertal penis was used to surgically fashion a sinus that will have the fake appearance of a vulva.

In this article which reviews the TV show, Jazz talks openly about no libido. This is a result of the hormones. Jazz’s surgeon (a trans woman) knows that there is an opportunity to give Jazz a chance to have libido but to do so would require stopping hormone therapy. The surgeon decides to proceed with the operation, thus rendering that status permanent. Note the fact that beforehand, Jazz’s surgeon was still unsure how the operation was going to work.

people.com/tv/jazz-jennings-talks-sexual-stuff-orgasm-libido-doctor-before-gender-confirmation-surgery/

It would be laughable how hypocritical trans activists and “charities” are about “sexual health” if it wasn’t so utterly disgusting when you look at what is actually happening to people like Jazz.

And one that can't challenge anything because they are at the forefront of a million dollar industry, now, which would collapse.

Oh that induced a wave of nausea. I have a horrible feeling that these abused children won't enjoy long and happy lives for a variety of very avoidable reasons.

I’m still waiting for a trans charity or TRA to explain to me how is it a good thing that Jazz Jennings has never and will never have an orgasm.

Is this true? How can anyone allow that to happen and sleep at night.

Agreed they can absolutely fuck off with their fake concern about sexual health.

That article is actually about sexual disease: STIs, HIV etc, with a bit about contraception as well.

If trans charities are so concerned about sexual health, why is anyone advocating for puberty blockers and cross sex hormones and surgery which result in removal of sexual function and pleasure?

I’m still waiting for a trans charity or TRA to explain to me how is it a good thing that Jazz Jennings has never and will never have an orgasm.

So they can fuck off with their “concern about sexual health”.

I was unaware that trans identifying individuals were being denied access to the Sandyford clinic. This is just another, endless, self centred whinge.

Might be more useful to focus on HIV rates for transwomen in Scotland if you want to make a convincing case

I'm more concerned about the rise in HIV cases amongst intravenous drug users in Scotland to be honest. But I guess junkies aren't 'glamorous' enough to be worthy of concern.

^^

What an embarrassing jumble of random stats and empty statements for an actual newspaper to print. They might as well have included that the gestation period for an elephant is 22 months and it rains a lot in Manchester.

Yes, I was confused by the point of this article. Are transpeople reluctant to seek sexual health care as they might be misgendered?

They have already made sure any dr who doesnt play along gets fired. They have literally got what they want where no mention of their actual sex can ever be referenced to yet somehow its everyone else fault when it inevitably leads to someone being hurt or dying.

Stis dont care what gender you have. If you have a penis you need a condom.

How they cant see they are only hurting themselves here I dont know.

Anyone would think they like being the victim all the time

Yes, I was confused by the point of this article. Are transpeople reluctant to seek sexual health care as they might be misgendered? In which case, recording what is proposed for the census - sex and gender identity - would allow health workers to both correctly assess a person’s needs and address/refer to them as they wish.

However, there may be additional medical issues related to hormone treatments which health workers need to know (no idea if this is the case) which could be garnered from a medical history. Not sure how that is addressed by self-ID though.

The article is not clear at all how the issues are linked.

Globally trans women are 49 times more likely to have HIV than the general population, the World Health Organisation has said.

Well, if you are comparing Brazilian sex-workers with IT workers in the UK there might be a reason for that.

The whole article is absolute nonsense since the NHS, and its records, are already based on self-ID - to the fucking detriment of several trans people's healthcare already and increasing the risk of inappropriate care.

Surely they mean gender health? For the love of God, sexual health is related to our sexual organs. How is somebody self-IDing as a woman when they have a penis going to help their sexual health?