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Multiple sex offender to be released from prison given access to sex workers in an attempt to rehabilitate

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Grimbles · 09/07/2019 12:32

This is... I'm just lost for words to be honest...

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sillage · 10/07/2019 21:12

I'd like to thank liberal thought leaders who have made careers for themselves defending every rapist's right to (ab)use the bodies of women who aren't them.

“I do think men who get off not just on sex but on exploitation are irredeemable shitholes, though. And yeah, they should have a legal right to access porn and to pay for sex (with people who are above the age of consent). -Jill Filipovic

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/sep/15/outsourcing-porn-sex-work

Michelleoftheresistance · 09/07/2019 20:57

If the consensus is that men cannot control themselves. That rape is not about power but instead about the natural sexual urges of men.....

This is nonsense and everyone knows its nonsense. Every woman knows dozens of men, is often married to one, the daughter of one, the granddaughter of them, the sister of them, the mother of them, the friend of them - who would never dream of behaving in this way.

This is about a small group of men trying to avoid having to accept boundaries and control their behaviour or take responsibility for it. They can help it. There is such a thing as right and wrong, they are capable of comprehending this and so being free in society, and so need to be held strongly accountable for their actions. And will be rightly despised by decent people wherever they go, prisons included. Shame and taboos and basic standards and boundaries have a place in society, and there are laws against this kind of behaviour. Currently being very badly enforced, but there are laws.

TalkingAboutPride · 09/07/2019 20:19

Wow.

Him having access to porn is a problem, but paying women to sleep with him is prescribed.

Right-o Australia.

ByGrabtharsHammarWhatASaving · 09/07/2019 20:15

If the consensus is that men cannot control themselves. That rape is not about power but instead about the natural sexual urges of men..... then why the fuck do we not seriously consider curtailing the freedom of all men?

I've asked myself this question a lot. But, like most women, I have a son, brothers, partner, male friends etc, men that I love and trust and respect. I have to believe that this behaviour is learnt and not innate. If I let myself believe that it's natural and not socialised then I'm not sure I could keep going.

ByGrabtharsHammarWhatASaving · 09/07/2019 20:12

I honestly think every single legal, social, and political decision should have to be run past radical feminists for approval before being permitted. This world is a disgrace.

sakura184 · 09/07/2019 19:01

Michelleoftheresistance

I'm starting to think it's basically always been like this and women are only getting to learn of it now because of the internet

sackrifice · 09/07/2019 19:00

It cannot just be us though that see how fucking bad this is?

Can it?

Erythronium · 09/07/2019 18:57

This does seem to be the key here:

In 2005, Latimer was sentenced to almost three years in prison for trying to rape a drunk man who had fallen asleep in a park.

Trying to rape a man, now that's bad. Any solution, even the paid rape of women, is better than that happening again obviously.

Annasgirl · 09/07/2019 18:52

Sometimes I come on to this board and I despair for humanity. To-day is one such day.

Dangerfloof · 09/07/2019 18:35

Sorry I keep on saying this everywhere, it's not sex work, unless and until you want your mother, sister, daughter, niece, you, sanctioned at the job centre for not taking this "job"
It's either prostitution or sex slavery.

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 09/07/2019 17:30

And don't get me started on the government foisting him on poor sex workers.

thatwouldbeanecumenicalmatter · 09/07/2019 17:23

WTF did I just read!! So angry at this judge's decision.

Latimer still refused to accept he was a sex offender

Despite carrying out multiple sexual assaults, wilful exposure, propositioning women and an attempt to rape a sleeping man! He still despite all this (and I'm sure there'll be lots more he's done and hasn't been caught/prosecuted for) believes he's not a sex offender - he's 61 years old, for a lifetime he has sexually assaulted people, he is not going to change, especially when he doesn't think he's done anything wrong!

Derrick said if he did reoffend it would likely be a non-contact crime rather than a serious sexual attack.

How the fuck does the judge know this! He's been released before and broke his conditions, he has proved time and time again that he is dangerous and not to be trusted, what makes the judge think he's going to act any differently now?!

“He is now able to identify some of the triggers for his offending, most specifically boredom, loneliness and talking to women that he does not know,”

This is going to be impossible to police in the community. If only there was a place this man could be where he couldn't come across women he doesn't know 🤔

placemats · 09/07/2019 17:22

So he is a danger to the 'community' but not a danger to those who are obviously a subset to the 'community' i.e. prostitutes. Well those women know now exactly where they stand.

MrsTerryPratchett · 09/07/2019 17:13

Those poor poor sex workers.

This.

TurboTeddy · 09/07/2019 17:10

WA supreme court justice Anthony Derrick said in his decision handed down on Tuesday that while Latimer remained a serious danger to the community, the risk could be managed in the community.

So the judge acknowledges this man presents a serious danger to the community but thinks he should be released anyway. How about managing the risk of serious danger by not gambling on the offenders rudimentary grasp of consent and keeping him locked up.

I worry about my grasp of reality sometimes; when I see decisions like this I'm shocked at the stupidity of people in authority but they seem to avoid widespread and universal criticism for being a fuckwit. I need this forum to reassure myself I'm not mad.

MoltenLasagne · 09/07/2019 16:55

So not only have Australia legalised prostitution, they’re now legally acting as both pimp in providing prostitutes to a criminal and punter in paying for prostitutes on his behalf?

Michelleoftheresistance · 09/07/2019 16:53

And how the actual fuck will they justify this when he inevitably offends against those sex workers and quite possibly kills one of them?

Could it get any clearer that only people with penises are considered Real People in the UK of today? And that our government and justice system are now so utterly fucked up that they're no longer competent to run a corner shop never mind a country?

Lougle · 09/07/2019 16:52

"he has gained a rudimentary concept of consent"

Well, that bar is so low you can just slip a piece of paper under it. Shock

Goosefoot · 09/07/2019 16:51

I don't think sex work should be legal, but I believe it is in Australia. So I guess that is the place they are starting from, normally adults could access ex workers. So they are actually placing some limits on this guy beyond what most people would have.

I can see what they are trying to accomplish, I think. It seems like this guy has some basic, serious problems with impulse control and also IQ, maybe something like FAS which is really common in the prison population. They are trying to set the situation up to make it as easy as possible for him to manage within the rules. So no porn, which I would say was a good call, but some limited (and maybe supervised?) access to sex. Will that help? I really have no idea. But I can see why someone might think so.

Imnobody4 · 09/07/2019 16:45

I have no words. We have reached the 'End Times'

JoyceJeffries · 09/07/2019 13:26

Presumably he doesn’t have a job so we are in effect we will be paying for him to rape prostitutes. FFS.

LassOfFyvie · 09/07/2019 13:22

And if those ‘sex workers’ decide they don’t want to accept him as a client, then what?

Will his ‘rudimentary understanding of the concept of consent’ keep them safe?

I'm sure he will feel that as long as puts money down he has consent.

Grimbles · 09/07/2019 13:18

If the prostitute declined the she would obviously be responsible if he then raped a proper woman, or even worse* an actual man

*sarcasm

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UrsulaPandress · 09/07/2019 13:11

Is this a joke?

Slacksandblouse · 09/07/2019 13:11

Did it actually say he was so desperate that he attempted to rape a sleeping man? So according to experts providing prostitutes for him will keep others safe from his abuse and assaults?
Yeah nah. Doesn’t add up.