The Epstein case - how many famous men had sex with young children?

This Daily Beast Cheat Sheet has more background articles, starting with a riveting 2015 piece by Vicky Ward about researching a feature she did for Vanity Fair in 2003, which shows something of Epstein's character and reach. It is still a mystery how Epstein came by his fortune.

www.thedailybeast.com/i-tried-to-warn-you-about-sleazy-billionaire-jeffrey-epstein-in-2003?ref=scroll

edgeofheaven
It isn't just the conspiracy of powerful men who've protected Epstein that need to be brought down but the whole web of politically powerful men from whom he's bought influence by providing them with 'entertainment' (sc. opportunity to indulge fantasy of raping young girls).

We live in a peadophilic culture.

www.feministcurrent.com/tag/pedophile-culture/

It's everywhere, we often don't even notice.

I live in Asia and it is shocking how often you will see older white men with young Asian girls who do not even look 18. The men don’t look ashamed at all. And that’s what I’ve seen just walking around in public areas, I don’t spend time in the nightclubs and other locations where it’s even more brazen.

I don’t believe what Epstein has done is rare sadly and for rich men who “have it all” they see it as a thrill. When in reality it is rape abuse and exploitation.

I hope he’s locked up and the conspiracy of powerful men who’ve protected him comes crashing down too.

@sakura184 wow, that is so patronising and reactionary, you’ve come full circle to be alt-right! I, for one, have agency and can do good and bad, for which I’m fully responsible.

You seem to think women are all pathetic weak-minded children. I don’t want to live in your world, thanks.

@CoolCarrie yes I'd heard that too about Natalie Wood, but Frank Sinatra was also "involved" with her when she was 15 and he was in his late 30s, or so I read.

Everyone is in a cage, some people's are made of gold, but they are still cages.

What makes us different is we can see the bars.

Nothing is going to change.

This is why radfems always advise women to stay the fuck away from men, because you will ^always" become implicated in their crimes. When police arrest gangs they always arrest the girlfriends who happen to be there too

Annasgirl

It's totally gendered.

Handmaidens are sometimes involved and it is worth analyzing why they do what they do. Women are completely dominated by men from all directions, and ( even rich and wealthy women) are often in fear of men, so I should imagine that men who are dangerous enough to behave as the pimps of prostituted children are terrifying to women.
However handmaidens shouldn't be let off the hook, of course

And the male-dominated tinhat conspiracy sphere has (rightly) been banging on about it for decades. A stopped clock and all that..

They are everybody’s children, in the historical sense!

Sometimes if feels as if something could finally shift. I really hope that when those papers are unsealed as a result of The Miami Herald's lawsuit then a whole lot of utterly corrupt people will stand trial and go down for a very long time.

...one of the alleged ringleaders and chief abusers is, in fact a ‘model’ from the Former Yugoslavia.

Further implicated are many US security personnel and services, including the CIA and security contractors like Dynacorp. There are links between Epstein’s flights and illegal renditions, the Former Yugoslavia and US policy in the Middle East and beyond.

If anything, this is a problem of corruption, imperialism and rich people’s behaviour with impunity.

"Womendoittoo"

Bear in mind that many women are implicated in this case. Epstein’s ‘little black book’ names two US presidents, numerous senior US politicians and civil servants, famous tycoons, two Israeli PMs, one Royal, a handful of female celebrities and on, and on. Also, the alleged victims were both male and female, all of which goes to suggest this is maybe less a ‘feminist’ issue, than a ‘people’ one.

I don’t think it was Sinatra who attacked Natalie Wood, it was allegedly another now very, very old actor who has a famous son who is married to an actress originally from 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 .

This 2011 Mail on Sunday article casts some light on the how if not the why of procurement.
And the paper can't have been too concerned about libel after all, though there are some telling gaps in the story. Some people are in danger of losing their teflon coating.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1363444/Jeffrey-Epstein-Robert-Maxwells-daughter-Ghislaine-hired-girls-paedophile.html

Have to mentions Sheila Jeffreys Spinsters book here , because that's where I learned that it was women who fought for the age of consent to be passed in law and that men fought this because the age of consent ran contrary to male interests

The US Attorney General has recused himself from the case because he once worked for a law firm that represented Epstein.

Attorney General Bill Barr. Which has led to this tweet:

mobile.twitter.com/page88/status/1148247263057235969

I agree about the use of language in cases like these - so often reported as having 'sex with a minor' 'engaging in sexual acts with an underage girl/boy'. Really what they mean is raping a child. That's what they have done so why make is sound like anything other than what it is.

HRH with Virginia Roberts who has made accusations about him.

(In the background, Ghislaine Maxwell, a chip off the old block who, er, introduced wealthy gents to the likes of Ms Roberts.)