Y chromosome

You seem to be suggesting that I was making a point other than this is interesting in the context of this discussion. Which I think it is.

Sorry, but after 24 hours arguing with another poster who thinks men are composed entirely of human garbage I tend to get a bit snippy.

I’ll say this one last time because if people haven’t got it by now I’m wasting my time: It’s not about the number of genes, it’s what they do.

If the Y chromosome contained nothing but the genes for sexual differentiation it would still be enough to cleave the entire human race into two distinct biological classes.

Also, those 16,000 genes on the X chromosome are also present in males. Females have duplicate X chromosomes; they do not have a chromosome that males do not possess. That means they are less prone to X-linked conditions like colour blindness: one copy compensates for errors in the other. But only one X chromosome is active in each cell. Those cells aren’t bursting with 16,000 extra genes manufacturing double the amount of protein.

Also fairly well accepted that most men are faster and stronger than most women...

wider range of IQ so more likely to have a learning disability but also chance of exceptional intelligence. I don't think this is new or especially controversial.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_intelligence

excuse wiki

Bernard
Males are actually faster though

the Y chromosome has just 4.6m years left before it disappears completely
Nevermind
The human race won't survive that long.

also much more likely to have a genius level IQ, be faster, stronger and more orginal thinkers

My understanding is that being male is a high risk strategy : more prone to disease and death from conception onwards, more likely to have congential and developmental problems (and perhaps more importantly be more significantly affected). BUT also much more likely to have a genius level IQ, be faster, stronger and more orginal thinkers.

You seem to be suggesting that I was making a point other than this is interesting in the context of this discussion. Which I think it is.

Here's an article by Jenny Graves who wrote the first paper on the degradation of the Y chromosome. Here's what she has to say about it:

"The X bears about 1,600 genes with varied functions. But the Y has hardly any genes; maybe 50, and only 27 of these are in the male-specific part of the Y. Many are present in multiple copies, most of them inactive, lying in giant loops of DNA. Most of the Y is made of repetitive “junk DNA”. Thus the human Y shows all the signs of a degraded chromosome near the end of its life."

theconversation.com/sex-genes-the-y-chromosome-and-the-future-of-men-32893

"Junk" and "degraded" are obviously synonyms for streamlined.

Those rats have lost an X chromosome as well as the Y. Both male and female have a single X.

Their system isn’t working out for them; they are an endangered species.

There are several other interesting sex-determination mechanisms. Platypuses are downright weird.

It's not only happening in humans. This rodent species has lost the Y chromosome but still shows sexual dimorphism.

www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/01/190131101022.htm

Good grief. This thread is barking.

Who's said die
Agree @goosefoot, always been interested on how language can be manipulated to tip a bias
Which is why people might not like it when I do question stuff, but as I said on the other thread (think it was the other one) that I'm not about to blindly take everything I read as truth.
Thanks to the more knowledgeable posters than me, it's really interesting reading actual informed posts as opposed to it being a thread people have just agreed with or been needlessly worrying over

It just goes to show how you can tip the discussion using language. If you want to say men are bad, call the Y chromosome "degraded". Or, to say they are good, say their Y is more highly evolved. Same thing, value laden language to create a particular narrative.

I've been called all kinds of names, told to die etc because I've tried to explain to the internet that humans are a dimorphic species

You might not like what's happening to the Y , I don't like it either because I think it's responsible for a lot of shit that's going on in the world

I like talking science but some people are beyond reasoning with. As others have noted, this is basically ‘race science’.

It also reminds me of Lombroso’s theories about ‘atavism’ among the ‘criminal classes’.

Biology is unfortunately transphobic and misandrist

@AlwaysComingHome

I'm still loling at all the men in the world being "in" on this secret that they're becoming extinct and trying desperately to stop it becoming public knowledge.

I think they hold secret meetings about it in their sheds.

TeaEnjoyingRadiantFeminist

Well... men have had such a complex about proving they were superior over women that I just think it astounded a lot of women when it was proven that biologically they definitely aren't

So what on earth has their obsession with superiority been about?

Also, is the degraded Y the reason men are hell bent on destroying the world and bringing everyone down with them?

Why is this extinction only happening in male humans and not the rest of the animal kingdom who’s sex is determined by their X and Y chromosomes?

Why is it happening right now, just when we’ve discovered chromosomes, when it could have happened at any time in the last 150 million years?

I'm still loling at all the men in the world being "in" on this secret that they're becoming extinct and trying desperately to stop it becoming public knowledge.

😂😂😂😂

So religion, literature and medicine has all been manipulated over the years by men as a great big deflection over who's superior over who?
I'm sorry, this thread's batshit, and I didn't even know about scientific racism before but this thread definitely has a whiff of it, it's foul reading.
Oh and I still stand by WTAF are you on about, even more so now!