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Fascinating tweets about JY’s waxing case. Read here. (Thread title edited by MNHQ)

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Whackitupto200 · 08/07/2019 09:27

JY’s parent sounds like an absolute loon. It would explain a lot.

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boatyardblues · 13/07/2019 10:51

The interviewer’s expressions are worth watching when the defence lawyer is speaking.

FannyCann · 13/07/2019 10:49

Yes - these reporting restrictions mean that if any other women have capitulated to this person, they won't now necessarily see this case and come forward. So the whole picture is not presented for scrutiny.

Iirc I think one of the court room tweets mentioned SG was unaware JY had targeted other women. If ever there was a case where all the targeted people need to come together to put up a united defence this is it.

Boom25 · 13/07/2019 10:45

What can we do to help SG? I feel so sorry for her. She already had a hard life and this dickhead has made it worse for no reason.

Justhadathought · 13/07/2019 10:44

Interesting interview with a representative from the law firm representing the defendant regarding the seeming media 'boycott'

Indeed! A media boycott of coverage of the case because of the implicit awareness of the potential' embarrassment' when taking transgender ideology to its logical conclusion.

This is why there is so much non-coverage of the issues in British media too.....or refusal to answer straight questions......because there is no logical consistency in TRA ideology..and any consistency there is leads very rapidly to uncomfortable and untenable places.

Satterthwaite · 13/07/2019 10:39

Cross post Helen

Satterthwaite · 13/07/2019 10:39

Yes - these reporting restrictions mean that if any other women have capitulated to this person, they won't now necessarily see this case and come forward. So the whole picture is not presented for scrutiny.

Why oh why are her husband and father telling the court about her problems? Why is the Member allowing all this? They're all still skirting (!) round the fact that the woman thought it was very likely that JY is an intact male and so inappropriate to demand her services.

This is a load of bollocks. Literally.

HelenaHandcart · 13/07/2019 10:36

I really hope that the anonymity order is lifted, as clearly it's just JY weaponising it so that they can carry on abusing with impunity and to get off on the power of that too.

Still can't get my head around the absence of any mainstream media interest or presence, in Canada & the rest of the world. If the order was lifted, and the nature and scale of these abuses were publicised, that might help any potential victims out there to come forward, and hopefully get help. I'm cynical that this will be the case.

If it wasn't down to one brave woman who attended, the world would probably only have JY's version of the tribunal events. We wouldn't understand the depravity of it all if it wasn't for her. It is shocking how all media is making such a big effort to ignore it. Can't get my head around it.

HorridHenrysNits · 13/07/2019 10:22

I expect so. Fucking poisonous bastard.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 13/07/2019 10:20

You can bet there are people he has bullied into doing all kinds of things.

HelenaHandcart · 13/07/2019 10:17

I'm really haunted by the thought that there may be other, vulnerable women out there who were bullied and coerced into fulfilling JY's power-humiliation-validation fantasy, either in JY or their own homes that we just don't know about.

If this is what JY has done to women who have refused service, then wtf would they do to someone vulnerable who would have been too scared to say no, and probably scared to report anything that would happen. Imagine being trapped in a room with JY in those circumstances. I wonder if there are women out there, I really hope not for their sakes, but as shamelessly JY targets vulnerable people, I'd be surprised if there wasn't.

HorridHenrysNits · 13/07/2019 10:13

Bet he wanted to touch himself when she cried.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 13/07/2019 10:13

The worst of it is that this will change nothing, JY will do the same thing in a few months, it'll all start again.

Nothing will change.

IStillMissBlockbuster · 13/07/2019 10:08

Holy fuck.

The lawyer says that SG had developmental disabilities and JY says "we all have developmental disabilities"

That is beyond words! I am stunned. Didn't think it was possible to peak again.

TimeLady · 13/07/2019 09:57

The Canadian press seems hamstrung by the reporting restrictions imposed by the tribunal - which in turn means that the imposition of those restrictions themselves are not being questioned. If anything makes you realise how important press freedom is, it's this case, as the subject matter is most definitely in the public interest.

Ahshitehesatitagain · 13/07/2019 09:37

This is just so fucking awful. I truly hope more people read and it helps them to understand the genuine concerns about the TRAs and the loopholes presented, instead of accusing us of transphobia.

Thanks to Elsie and solidarity to the women concerned.

LangCleg · 13/07/2019 09:35

It feels like the men are arguing in court over whether the woman is private property (of her husband and father) or public property (JY).

This.

And, once again, I find myself unable to comment further without breaking the Special Rules for Uppity Women on FWR.

An irony in itself.

OrchidInTheSun · 13/07/2019 09:34

What a fucking monster. I couldn't read all that. Canada is beyond hope in allowing a racist pig to bully an immigrant family living on the poverty line in this way

FannyCann · 13/07/2019 09:31

Sorry, I've reported my post to remove as it names a name. Blush

BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 13/07/2019 09:31

such upsetting reading. i too would like to support SG if I could - fuck JY for bringing this trouble to her door.

FannyCann · 13/07/2019 09:29

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TimeLady · 13/07/2019 09:22

Interesting interview with a representative from the law firm representing the defendant regarding the seeming media 'boycott':

SnuggyBuggy · 13/07/2019 09:12

Horrible narcissistic person. Trying to "save lives" FFS

GirlDownUnder · 13/07/2019 09:10

Did JY request an arm/leg wax or bikini wax?

From SG (latest case) I understand it to be a leg / arm and poss. beard wax. From the earlier (and future) cases, a Brazilian.

happydappy2 · 13/07/2019 09:08

Did JY request an arm/leg wax or bikini wax? Thanks if anyone knows for sure.

TheRattleBag · 13/07/2019 09:05

I have no idea how Elsie is managing to hold this together to tweet so calmly, even afterwards.

I'm thousands of miles and many hours away, but my blood pressure is off the scale just reading it!