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Fascinating tweets about JY’s waxing case. Read here. (Thread title edited by MNHQ)

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Whackitupto200 · 08/07/2019 09:27

JY’s parent sounds like an absolute loon. It would explain a lot.

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PierreBezukov · 15/07/2019 11:32

The wilful blindness is one the most illuminating things I think I've ever seen.

Look at ideologically-driven far-left or far-right regimes in modern history and you'll find multiple examples of this occurring among large, educated sections of the population.

PierreBezukov · 15/07/2019 11:29

Trip that is shocking. So the judge in the JY case has ordered a media blackout but the same judge is a sponsor of pro-trans groups?

This is corruption of the highest degree in the Canadian judiciary.

Why is the media not appealing this??

sakura184 · 15/07/2019 11:06

Sorry wrong thread

sakura184 · 15/07/2019 11:05

Regarding human rights , it's a human right for a single man to buy a baby from a woman. So he has more money than women because of his class, and then he uses that money to buy a baby off a woman who doesn't have much money because if her class

https://rightsinfo.org/a-human-rights-legal-challenge-means-the-law-has-changed-to-allow-single-parents-to-have-a-child-through-surrogacy/

Cookieflavoredbiscuit · 15/07/2019 11:03

I think that to a certain type of person, gender affirming= ego affirming.
And for some, it seems their ego can’t be affirmed(=gratified) without stepping on others.

And this person is so obviously trying to provoke.
I wish there was a way to find out how many salons have been contacted by this creep show of a nightmare...

This from a few hours ago from JY. I don’t think the refusing someone with JY’s reputation would be hard to “explain.”

Can you imagine running a salon with someone like JY in the area?

Fascinating tweets about JY’s waxing case. Read here. (Thread title edited by MNHQ)
andyoldlabour · 15/07/2019 11:03

OvaHere

"Whilst I understand it's important to the defendant it misses the point that no woman (or man) should be compelled by law to touch any kind of genitalia against their will."

This is what I have been thinking ever since hearing about JY. This is the legitimisation of sexual abuse.
Canada is a very messed up country.

whatsthecomingoverthehill · 15/07/2019 11:02

How is waxing gender affirming?

Because it is one of the few services that is generally split by sex, so obviously for someone to feel all womanly they have to be able to get it done. The actual waxing is irrelevant (there are probably dozens of places JY could have got waxed at if that was what they actually wanted), but it is forcing women to acknowledge JY as a woman, even when touching their dick, that is 'affirming'.

SnuggyBuggy · 15/07/2019 10:57

Does that make me a transman because I don't wax there?

popehilarious · 15/07/2019 10:53

Apparently men can also get waxed so i literally have no idea why it's female-gender-affirming.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 15/07/2019 10:45

?How is waxing gender affirming?

Because of the sexualisation of women.

You have to remember the idea of what a woman is to JY.

although saying that it might be because JY likes kids.

HorridHenrysNits · 15/07/2019 10:41

Gender affirming I mean

HorridHenrysNits · 15/07/2019 10:41

How is waxing gender critical? Women have pubes. If it were a boob job or dick removal, there would at least be a logic to that

Cookieflavoredbiscuit · 15/07/2019 10:38

But the LGBT-only swimming session is not discrimination against people who are not LGBT? They get to keep that for themselves. Because of reasons.

From the tweet thread:

? Does JY acknowledge that SG also has human rights?
JY - yes but is balancing act

Uh huh, balance. Because reasons.

Popchyk · 15/07/2019 10:11

So Muslim-only women's privacy swimming is discrimination against males who are non-Muslim? Right.

But the LGBT-only swimming session is not discrimination against people who are not LGBT? They get to keep that for themselves. Because of reasons.

LordProfFekkoThePenguinPhD · 15/07/2019 10:04

This is why I have an issue with ‘human rights’ it covers more ‘human wants’ these days.

When you think of how people are living/dying in this world and some creature decided that their desire to have a waxing is a human ‘right’?

What about the rights of the woman they are forcing to handle their testicles? Oh sorry - only women/foreigners huh?

There’s not enough money or hand sanitiser in the world for me to do that job.

CaptainKirksSpookyghost · 15/07/2019 09:34

It's as though people's mental faculties have all but combusted

Nah, they've just been been taught over many years not to think.

Datun · 15/07/2019 09:21

It's as though people's mental faculties have all but combusted.

The number of words, analysis, and time spent writing about all this without acknowledging that the motivation is the blatant targeting of women, is extraordinary.

The wilful blindness is one the most illuminating things I think I've ever seen.

As is the weird assumption that other women can't see it.

Cookieflavoredbiscuit · 15/07/2019 06:04

Our human rights tribunal abuse vulture keeps circling- responding to a tweet about discussing “privacy swims.” The first tweet had the piece from New Westminster Record...

Fascinating tweets about JY’s waxing case. Read here. (Thread title edited by MNHQ)
Fascinating tweets about JY’s waxing case. Read here. (Thread title edited by MNHQ)
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Maniak · 15/07/2019 03:58

"In a May 30, 2019 ruling in JY v. Various Waxing Salons, the BC Human Rights Tribunal expressed its concern about the “rights” of transgender women to access “gender affirming” care such as waxing, which the Tribunal says is “critical,” even if this is “a very intimate service that is sometimes performed by women who are themselves vulnerable.” The Tribunal states that JY has a “genuine grievance” about “pervasive discrimination against transgender women,” and this “is the reason that the Tribunal exists.”"

Since when is WAXING of critical importance? That's absolutely ridiculous. It's of critical importance to absolutely nobody.

Watchfulwaiter · 15/07/2019 03:44

So totally disgusted by this.

High Commission, whatever: I'm up for making a protest.

Cookieflavoredbiscuit · 15/07/2019 00:45

Applying JY's own argument that women have penises too there would need to be a protected characteristic of "penis bearers". There isn't.

At least not officially.

miri1985 · 15/07/2019 00:29

I have no idea but I'm wondering whether after this case is over, whether the identities of the women will become known, so we can support them?

Their full names are on the JCCF website (www.jccf.ca/justice-centre-representing-three-more-bc-aestheticians-facing-human-rights-complaints-over-refusal-to-perform-waxing-service/) so I assume that there is no publication ban on their names and they don't mind them being known.

While the first 2 are mentioned as being religious, there is no mention in the article about the 3rd woman being religious just being uncomfortable and untrained to wax male genitals so hopefully this can be settled from a non religious angle too

Destinysdaughter · 14/07/2019 21:58

I have no idea but I'm wondering whether after this case is over, whether the identities of the women will become known, so we can support them?

thebluearsefly · 14/07/2019 21:02

@MockerstheFeManist k but there seems to be a diplomatic mission (which would be the same difference no?)

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