Fascinating tweets about JY’s waxing case. Read here. (Thread title edited by MNHQ)

Just read about the Judge's conflict of interest... bloody hell Canada Govt, are your damage limitation/PR people asleep at the wheel?! Better warn your insurers too that there's a fuckton of compensation payments headed their way: these women's lawyers are being handed Christmas on a plate.

In fact at this point I'm starting to hope they let the farce get all the way to the end so we get to see the women's lawyers then take all this to (proper) court for harassment, distressed caused in proceedings with a judge with conflict of interest and behaviour during those proceedings.... bring it on. Let's do it in the full glare of the world's media. Hopefully that poor disabled, struggling, working class woman who was sobbing and humiliated in the dock the other day ends up with enough of a payout she doesn't need to work again.

This YouTuber has made a couple of videos relating to JY. This video has been released today, how long it stays up remains to be seen. There are already over a thousand comments so despite the lack of reporting there are many people taking an interest.

At what stage can the judge stop this and call in the psychologist for an assessment?

You missed the bit on day 1 where the judge was trying to figure out how to deal with someone obviously and openly male up until a couple of years ago insisting in court that they had periods, in terms of establishing the genitals the complainant actually had. Since it was obvious and inescapable that the content of these genitals actually had to be established for the case.

Still hasn't been an answer to that one.

There's a point at which it gets so silly it's baffling that actual grown ups are spending huge amounts of time, effort and worse tax payer funding on this absolute bullshit. And it makes you think, worryingly, our society and many people in it have way too much time on their hands and not nearly enough important things in their lives to think about.

Naked court. That's what they need there.

Is the lawyer able to argue that JY is not actually a women as a matter of fact? - That's akin to heresy in Canada and could damage the cases of the women. The safest way to do it is to lay out all the evidence that it's bloody obvious he's a bloke but without saying it.

Could Defendant / Lawyer not challenge the actual Transgender Ideology? - See above.

You know because of you know – actual science? - At the moment science is very unfashionable in some quarters and a quasi religious ideology is much preferred.

Even if they were not allowed to make this case for technical legal reasons – It would be nice if they could make a statement for the record that the Lawyer / Defendants do not accept the whole Transgender Ideology. - See first answer above.

Hi, new here and not having read all the 600 odd posts so I apologise if my point has been made already.

Is the lawyer able to argue that JY is not actually a women as a matter of fact?

Could Defendant / Lawyer not challenge the actual Transgender Ideology?

You know because of you know – actual science?

Even if they were not allowed to make this case for technical legal reasons – It would be nice if they could make a statement for the record that the Lawyer / Defendants do not accept the whole Transgender Ideology.

Before Women and Blacks got legal rights were Lawyers able to make statements for the record in Courts / Hearings that this was wrong.

I can not believe that in 2019 – we are in the same moral positions as those times again.

except while JY is clearly extreme, activists are ignoring the fact that the system they are pushing for enables exactly the type of person JY is

Or, of course, blaming women....

Interesting to see how little support JY is getting on Twitter from the trans sisterhood. It would suggest that JY has become a liability for the cause and that anyone with any awareness is backing away.
That has been quite refreshing to see..except while JY is clearly extreme, activists are ignoring the fact that the system they are pushing for enables exactly the type of person JY is - and there are others who are just not as vocal as JY. Distancing themselves from JY allows them to say "JY is not one of us" but JY definitely IS one of them, because that's exactly the problem with both self ID and saying gender dysphoria has nothing to do with being trans/is transphobic.

As for JY, their move into trans has been led by the advantages it brings JY's fetish. I'm expecting the next to be continuing with being trans and pushing in women's spaces, even jail or a refuge, both using the victim card somehow, or "detransitioning" (inverted commas because you can't transition out of something you're not) and joining the incell ranks again. But my bets are on the former.

Interesting to see how little support JY is getting on Twitter from the trans sisterhood. It would suggest that JY has become a liability for the cause and that anyone with any awareness is backing away.

terf I can't load a pic of Devyn Cousineau - I've reached my limit

Try googling her name and going to images. It might help make sense, cos I can't see her pic in anything posted so far.

I know right LordProfFekko

I just can't fathom why JY is doubling down so hard. It's seems counterintuitive.

@GirlDownUnder to be honest the comments under the post is rather heartening.

Is Devyn the woman in the picture? So confused!

And in other JY news, he's managed to get another GC voice suspended from twitter.

Lindsay Shepherd is a Canadian columnist and a free-speech activist. She was vocal about self ID and about the current** JY BCHRT complaint.

From JY themselves mobile.twitter.com/trustednerd/status/1150845878464200706

Oh great.

Yep BOF, I feel horrified for the women involved in this through no fault of their own. It doesn't seem exactly impartial.

And that JY is allowed to 'cross examine' his victims is just sick.

Well this is worrying...Judge in serious conflict of interest. Unbelievable.

It's about power over women.

So what makes them uncomfortable. Interesting though isn’t it. Absolute lack of empathy, absolutely self centred, odd parents.

EVERYTHING he does is about making women squirm and dominating/controlling them.

This ^^ is a giant seam running through the entire ideology. It's everywhere.

And because, in a patriarchal society, men do dominate, some people don't even realise see the horrific leverage that the ideology gives men everywhere.

I think a bit part of it is also the possibility of the money.

Surely excruciating pain in the testicles would be the antithesis ‘lady feels’?

Ordinarily. But menstruation, for example, isn't JYs main fetish. It's one manifestation of it that is so grabbing it eclipses what else is going on. JY's actual fetish is making women uncomfortable by forcing them into uncomfortable situations. And JY is such a chicken shit that he targets vulnerable women and girls (and gets the ones he can't shut up/control banned from twitter). So conversations about menstruation may indeed be about something that turns JY on, but the bigger drive is the actual conversation itself, because the level of detail he goes into is designed to make the other person uncomfortable. And that would be amplified if JY could do it in person. So conversations about waxing JY's balls are a turn on. Making 12 year olds uncomfortable is a turn on. Making vulnerable adult women publicly discuss handling JYs sweaty balls is a turn on.

Which is why it's so abhorrent that any of the beauticians are cross examined by him.

And it also explains why JY went from creepy dude online to trans woman pushing for their "rights". Look at what was worn to the town hall meeting (purple dress and tiara). That is consistent with making people uncomfortable. And becoming a trans woman is the ultimate pass to making women uncomfortable and controlling them by the law rendering them subsequently unable to defend themselves against a biological male (which a trans woman is).

EVERYTHING he does is about making women squirm and dominating/controlling them. I've been thinking he has mental health issues and we need to be careful somewhat. And he may have genuine MH issues, but he's also extremely manipulative and controlling and we shouldn't take our eyes off that.

littlbrowndog I'd seen Louise's twitter account a while ago but not this site. Thanks for that share.

Just off topic a wee bit , does anyone know how things have been going at the once women only swimming pond on Hampstead Heath now that trans people are allowed to use it?