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Just had a terrible shouty argument with a relative

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failingatlife · 07/07/2019 16:20

BlushAngrySad Oh God just need to rant. I've just had a terrible stand up argument with my DB in front of my 3 kids, his DC, his wife and my mum. We quite often talk about politics, brexit, Scottish indy, trump etc. As feminists my DM and I are obviously all over the whole gender issue so this also comes up.

Today, it was VAWG and it got very heated. To cut a long story short my DB is sick of feeling guilty about male violence. He has never been violent or raped /sexually assaulted anyone and us bringing it is making him feel bad. NAMALT. Apparently women do bad things too. Myra Hindley was mentioned Hmm. We were both shouting and DB got extremely angry and red faced.

I'm embarrassed about losing it in front of my family but bloody hell his pathetic arguments about it being 'a human problem not a male one' made me mad! He also said to DD, not in front of me,' I hope you dont end up a misandrist like your mum'

DD pointed out afterwards that he had just shown how male anger is a problem. She said she thought he might hit me he got so angry so fast. (I never felt physically threatened BTW the last time he hit me was about age 10). It was a good lesson for DD about male attitudes. She thinks he was a bully shouting down women (dm & I) with stupid non arguments who expected to be listened to just because he's a man.

So we shouldn't bring up MVAWG cos it upsets the menz? How exactly are we supposed to tackle something we can't talk about?

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failingatlife · 07/07/2019 16:54

Wynston I did say I was embarrassed! It wasn't my finest moment. But he totally lost it his face was purple! But neither of us behaved well.

Proud of DD too. She saw him for what he was. A man blaming women for men's actions.

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Wynston · 07/07/2019 16:29

In youre words you both lost it?? Does this not make you both as bad???

timeforakinderworld · 07/07/2019 16:29

My dad is just like this. His sisters don't really talk to him anymore but he fails to see the connection.

HumphreyCobblers · 07/07/2019 16:26

Gosh your DD has it all sorted though? I would feel very proud of her for seeing it so clearly.

I am sorry your brother is such a wanker.

I have woken up very late to how society colludes in hiding male violence and it has come to a terrible shock to me really. My DH and I often discuss it, strangely it doesn't make him upset to name the problem for what it is.

orangeshoebox · 07/07/2019 16:23

he showed very clearly what problem is. namalt my arse.
good on your dd to see it so clearly.

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