Child and adolescent safeguarding issue in Langley BC

That’s interesting Dangerfloof and makes sense...I wonder why is was only picked up this year.

This event has been held previous years. Forgive this bit for making sod all sense, menopause brain,
The stretch* theory, like Amazon used to end up somehow making self employed delivery drivers pay Amazon when they were off sick.
This swim thing previously was iirc 15 years to 19 years and before that may well have been even smaller a gap.
So some of the organisers have slowly stretched the age gap, hoping no one would realise how far its gone and as it's been held no problems previously and hoping no one would actually think about the implications. It's been a long term plan for sure. Hopefully its come unstuck now

• I dont think it's called the stretch theory but for the life of me I cant think what it is.

So no limit on the age of paedophiles who can get access...

I work in the education sector in Vancouver. Safeguarding is not taken anywhere nearly as seriously as it is in the U.K.

The UK has a world leading safeguarding framework, far above what most countries (even the naice progressive ones) have.

And the reason we have that framework is because we’ve had some utterly awful things happen and learned from them.

A certain Langley resident has started lobbying for the swim to be reinstated but with ‘the parameters changed’ to be just 12+. Not 12-24.

Agreed! But, you know it does worry me, I don’t feel like I can add comments on these type of fb posts to say what I think because there’s a real concern that these so called liberals will find out who more about me (small town-easy to do) and cause problems.

A particular concern would be them contacting my employers, I work for two different organisations one of which is very woke. It’s just very frustrating and increasingly I find myself wishing I lived on the other side of the border.

Oh, I have seen the crosswalk thing here too. It's interesting the extent to which people think it is a good idea for the state, or in this case the local government, to really push hard on what might be considered a particular political perspective.

I work in the education sector in Vancouver. Safeguarding is not taken anywhere nearly as seriously as it is in the U.K. And like another poster earlier said, when interviewed for posts, none have ever asked any questions concerning the welfare of the students (granted most, not all, of them are of adult age)

Recently on our towns fb page, someone suggested a rainbow crosswalk. All of those who politely said they either didn’t think it was a good use of funds/didn’t see why it was needed, were automatically branded as “bigots” by a large number of responders.

In one case, a person who had said it wasn’t necessary, was called out by someone who had obviously visited his personal fb page and found out who he worked for, “does XXX know that they have a bigot working for them?”

Incredibly concerning.

The general patriotism of Canada right now is all tied up with inclusion, and it's why these kinds of things go further.

For whatever reason, in most of the country among the leadership, this is true. Not among the population as a whole, usually. On the odd occasion you see something published on these issues, like the CBC with the Drak Kids documentary, there are always plenty of people saying how crazy it is. Most people either don't know, or don't believe it when you tell them.

And it probably has got a lot to do with going in the opposite direction from the Americans.

But the whole political sphere has been taken over by identity politics of one kind or another. Just different versions on the left and right. Those who might oppose it have been completely shut up by being labeled as bigots. They no longer have a voice.

Canada is like that bloke who lives opposite the Westboro Church who painted his entire house as a rainbow. If you had a racist, sexist, homophobic, violent misogynist living next door, you'd be anxious to separate yourselves!

The problem is that the actual issues; youth LGBT homelessness, missing and murdered indigenous women, escalating violence against women, children in care, aren't being addressed because they are a bit hard. Whiffling on about inclusion is cheap and easy. JT is a master in making himself look good while doing nothing to actually change anything important.

Oh for fucks sake

What is going on

I hope someone waved that tweet conversation under the nose of the Member in the tribunal...

Those tweets need to be put on billboards.

Well, well, well...isn't that interesting? Sooo glad the event was canceled in light of certain local allies that might have attended!

Well someone was very disappointed that this event was cancelled.

The weird thing is care givers were not going to be allowed but allies were. Why wouldn't care givers count as allies?

I could not work out what this was even for.

It's going swimming. Don't most children do that anyway? And once they get to teens they either continue if they like it and drop it if they don't.

Most parents take their children swimming- even ones like me who hate sport and exercise and communal facilities. Why does there need to be a special event?

If it has something to do with body issues and helping people to be at ease with their body the best thing anyone who suffers from that is to go to an all ages, mixed sex public pool. They will quickly see humans come in all sorts of different shapes , sizes and hirsuteness and nobody cares.

I've spent a fair bit of time in Canada and loved it there. Friendliest people I ever met, never met a Canadian I didn't like. But it's gone off the rails politically in a truly insane way. JT talks a good talk but he's mostly hot air from what I've seen. If he put half as much effort into investigating the disproportionate and escalating murders of indigenous women as he does granting men access to women's changing rooms, he might actually accomplish something.

Sure, but people have been asking what's different about Canada that it seems to go so far there. I love Canadians, my in-laws are Canadian, I've had relationships with them, and have celebrated Canada Day there a few times. The general patriotism of Canada right now is all tied up with inclusion, and it's why these kinds of things go further.

Canadians are so open-minded their brains start to fall out.

I feel confident that not all 37 million Canadians feel this was a good idea. Including this one. Also feel certain few of us 37 million Canadians have any involvement or say with the goings on at Al Anderson pool in the town of Langley, B.C., let alone being in Langley (population of ~25,000).

Canadians are so open-minded their brains start to fall out.

They haven't yet realized that always thinking the best of people accused of wrongdoing is a way to disparage and devalue victims.

So much of what they preach there is about inclusivity, to the point where anyone protesting that potential perpetrators shouldn't be included with potential victims is shushed by the woke.

I'm glad they canceled the event, but the language in the cancellation is very weird, almost like they're disappointed that because parents etc. spoke up, they won't have the influx of young bodies they were hoping for.

I live just south of the US/Canadian border. I love Canada. We enjoy heading up to BC to visit Vancouver or Victoria or ski in Whistler. It's really an amazing area. I'm always struck by just how NICE the Canadians are. Compared to most Americans, they are very helpful, polite, and seem to avoid confrontation; in other words, Canadians seem very accommodating.

Is it possible this generous spirit is why Canada is in this crazy place on gender issues? In their efforts to be caring and inclusive to all citizens, have they lost sight of the need to protect the vulnerable? It's hard for me to comprehend just how a certain tampon fetishist or a militant anti-woman hate ogre have been allowed to do what they've done; they don't deserve the protections they've been afforded.

CANADA WAKE UP!!! You have foxes in the hen house. Reality is coming and it is not going to be pretty.